What’s needed to stop an American dictatorship?

Discussion in 'Democracy' started by Balbus, Jun 11, 2020.

  1. MeAgain

    MeAgain Dazed & Confused Lifetime Supporter Super Moderator

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    Still don't understand.
    Are you saying everyone as the money, time, and opportunity to go to college? Any college? I don't know why I went to a state college and paid my own way when I could have gone to Harvard....same as everyone else.
    You would think Harvard would expand to accommodate all 77 million college students in the U.S> not to mention those who "just want to go there" as they have the same opportunity as Barron Trump.
    Same with the rest.
    I have no idea what you're talking about when you say "basics".
     
  2. MeAgain

    MeAgain Dazed & Confused Lifetime Supporter Super Moderator

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    I was away for awhile...I see the right wingers are still up to their old tricks.

    Spreading it deep and wide.
     
  3. unfocusedanakin

    unfocusedanakin The Archaic Revival Lifetime Supporter

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    Typical right wing nonsense. "Both sides" are bad so you don't do anything.

    Ok if Nazis are so bad Trump is one. He is a fascist who wants to use his power to eliminate a race/religion of people. He wants to censor free speech and the press.

    Whatever you think of the other side they don't have the power so they should not be the ones you worry about. I know people associated with Antifa and are the farthest thing from fascists. Some of them served in the American military for example.

    Can you name anything they did that is wrong but challenge Trump? You can not. Their only conflicts are calling him on his bullshit. They use the 1st and 2nd amendment to do so. That is American. We have the duty and right to protect freedom. They are anti fascist in the 1940's as well. Trump and Hitler are the same idea.

    If you are concerned about them you should vote for stricter gun and hate speech laws. That goes a LONG way to ending what they can do now but it would also go a long way doing the same for the right wing. You will not do this and don't understand amendments work both ways.

    They are a lot bigger than you think they just don't open carry and threaten as much as the right wing. If you are scared of them wait until they actuly follow through. You may see who is on the side of freedom then.
     
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  4. Tishomingo

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    You seem to have the idea that everybody in need is a freeloader, wanting to take the money of those who have made it. Is the "someone" you're talking about the government asking you to pay your share of taxes for the benefits it provides? Why do you have a problem with that?
     
  5. scratcho

    scratcho Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    Should have a have a problem with that. Especially if you don't use the public roads, depend on the fire department if your house is on fire, the police if you don't want them them to help you, the military to protect from foreign interference, the mail man to deliver your mail, etc,ect.
     
  6. unfocusedanakin

    unfocusedanakin The Archaic Revival Lifetime Supporter

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    Each side of this picture has people willing to be violent. The side not being watched has most of the guns too. But the police are everyone's friend except the criminals right?

    It would seem they have decided who is a criminal already.

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  7. Tishomingo

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    --Trump's tax cut for corporations and billionaires. As Trump pushes new tax cuts for wealthy, analysis shows US billionaires $800 billion richer since pandemic hit
    --Trump's numerous actions to help himself and his friends at our expense. 138 things Trump did this year while you weren't looking
    --Trumps' actions to support Putin's and Russia's interests at the expese of ours.138 things Trump did this year while you weren't looking
     
  8. TheGreatShoeScam

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    Soldiers stop to point their guns at residents on their balcony.

    This is the scariest ugliest police state America video I have ever seen.

     
  9. newo

    newo Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    No one as blatantly corrupt as Trump should be holding any sort of office, let alone President. He needs to go. Just as did Obama before him, Joe Biden needs to get into office and repair the damage done by the previous Republican administration.
     
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  10. srgreene

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    Oh yes, so we can have the veep of the ever-so-much-more consequential liar, Barry Sotero, who claimed, among other whoppers that

    "“After two years of negotiations, we have achieved a detailed arrangement that permanently prohibits Iran from obtaining a nuclear weapon." [utterly false]

    AND

    "And under the terms of the deal, inspectors will have the permanent ability to inspect any suspicious sites in Iran." [Not true.]

    In addition to saying (may not be exact words, but close enough):

    "If you like your insurance company you can keep it". Yeah, right, liar.

    In comparison, Trump's false claims pale to insignificance.

    Funny how people like you are highly selective in their outrage.
     
  11. Tishomingo

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    For the benefit of those who aren't into the intricacies of far right nutjob birtherism, she's talking about Obama and complaining about his nuclear treaty with Iran. Yeah, I'm selective in my outrage. I reserve the lion's share of it for kooky right wing conspiracy theorists who pollute discussion forums with unsupported bilge.
    The latest Iran nuclear deal mess
    Trump’s better deal with Iran looks a lot like Obama’s
     
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  12. srgreene

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    Oh, I see, lying about whether or not the provisions of an (unsigned) agreement allow for a murderous dictatorship like Iran to get WMDs is, in your puerile mind among "the intricacies of the far right nutjob birterism" (even though it has absolutely nothing to do with the "birther" issue).

    You are gifted at casting baseless, mindless aspersions, which, in my mind qualifies, you as an idiot. Cheers, sir.
     
  13. newo

    newo Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    Trump has told over 20,000 lies while in office, and counting. If that's insignificant you're delusional, not to mention gullible in falling for the pitch of a snake oil salesman.
     
  14. srgreene

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    It’s the significance of the mid-representations, not the number, that is important. I should think that would be obvious.

    Four example, a four year old’s denial of who ate the cookies is trivial, no matter how often he repeats it.

    Say, I wonder how honest and accurate your 20,000 figure is. But I for one do take everything Trump says with a grain of salt. Trump sees the world through his own lens- so in that sense, he may say something false, but it’s not a lie. I think Obama knew better.

    you and Tish are gifted at avoiding what is important.
     
  15. scratcho

    scratcho Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    Try a barrel of salt. Mid-representations? The fuck does that mean? You folks can seemingly rationalize ANYTHING to do with your cult leader. Bigly sad. What's important is that your leader is a lying, mean, stupid, wanna'be dictator that has distorted the government of the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. And there are millions of us that don't like it.
     
  16. newo

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    So in effect you're saying that Trump doesn't even have sense enough to know he's an idiot.

    And comparing a four year old lying about who took the cookies to any of the lies Trump has told is beyond absurd. I mean, how much harm is caused by a child stealing cookies?
     
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  17. Deidre

    Deidre Follow thy heart

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    A third party needs to rise up. Until then, we'll just keep seeing the corruption build on both the Republican and Democratic sides.
     
  18. scratcho

    scratcho Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    I take it you haven't been around long enough to have watched and listened to the republican cult of hate and distortion. Democrats are not perfect but there is a definite distinction.
     
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  19. unfocusedanakin

    unfocusedanakin The Archaic Revival Lifetime Supporter

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    "Both sides are bad. But Obama and Hillary"

    Republican voters believe their guys have no choice but to be corrupt. They can only play by the rules the Obama's and Clinton made. They are just smart and ethical while doing it where as Democrats are automatically evil.

    They are mad that society is passing them by. When has a successful country ever gone back in time? I just wonder who the bogyman will be if there were no democrats. How would this toxic right wing utopia explain all the faults? I mean everyone has 5 Ar-15's and prays to Jesus and Trump in church every week since God sent Trump but the economy still does not work.
     
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  20. scratcho

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    Do I hear a -yeah but?
     

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