What Do You Think About Isis?

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  1. soulcompromise

    soulcompromise Member Lifetime Supporter

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    Did you know that hating Muslims actually helps the enemy? It's in the news.
     
  2. Asmodean

    Asmodean Slo motion rider

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    Deduction would also help you come to that conclusion :p But like I said: when such a remark comes from that particular user you know what time it is.
     
  3. soulcompromise

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  4. Asmodean

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    Fear or dangerous situations make people think in groups and generalisations. They label the risks. It is instinct. It does not mean everyone in that generalized group is a risk or should be treated as such. Even if it would seem wise to treat everyone in that risky group as a risk just as a precaution, if we do it often enough and hard enough it will backfire. Because how can you blame someone for distancing themselves from us if we have chronically and falsely stigmatized them just to give ourselves some comfy feeling of security.
     
  5. Sitka

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    Read/watch better news.
     
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  6. Piney

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    They are the mirror image of American Nilhists and grievance mongers.
     
  7. Wizardofodd

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    I'll take NPR over NBC, ABC or CBS any day of the week.
     
  8. SpacemanSpiff

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    Mali is not important to the us

    i doubt it got more than a small mention on the day it happened
     
  9. tikoo

    tikoo Senior Member

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    I think the Caliphate will be disarmed then get a Rez . It'd be a traditional culture preserve .
     
  10. xenxan

    xenxan Visitor

    I agree with your assessment that other topics need attention too. That goes to show the stranglehold that Wash has over the media.

    What to watch,Terrorism or Climate Change? The question you have to answer before you watch the daily news; becoming repetitive with every viewing. Orientating fear directly onto our daily psyche. IS or any other group doesn't need propaganda, the media of the west does it for them. Highlighting every move:bombing:beheading:terrorist attack etc.

    Truth is scarce in this day and age; fully challenging our research skills to uncover actual truth. Even then, you can't respectfully admit it as truth.

    "He who controls the past controls the future. He who controls the present controls the past." George Orwell
     
  11. Sitka

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    It got a week's worth of coverage on all three of those networks.
     
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  12. Sitka

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    An American was killed by Al Qaeda, and there was pretty dramatic hostage rescue footage.

    It is a shame though that, on average, Americans know and care so little about the outside world.
     
  13. themnax

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    they're on my list of things i would be happy to have never heard of.
    all of the things their existence is a reaction to would have been very nice to have not happened too.

    that's pretty much the long and the short of it, for me, right there.

    technological civilization could have damd well developed without oil or greed,
    and damd well needs to move on and leave dependence on either, far behind.
    and there's no other damd reason besides greed, preventing it from doing so.
     
  14. Asmodean

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    I saw a little documentary today about the ladies (of which a lot of kids) with the name Isis in the netherlands. About 2000 people. Most of them have to deal with 'funny' remarks and even bullying and insults to their name on a regular basis. This of course when it is clear to the people doing so that they are not seriously affiliated with the terrorist organisation in anyway :p Although not really suprising (it is clear when kids get bullied it often does not matter to the bully how much sense the insult makes) I found it quite curious. Especially when we are aware IS or ISIS is an abbreviation with signs from our own alphabet and not the exact name they themselves use (but the arabic version of it).
     
  15. meridianwest

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    it's in the basic way human brain processes and remembers information. human brain calls things by the name that is most convenient to remember and by what the most prevalent name is. for better or worse, ISIS has stuck with the group. i doubt attempts to call it Daesh or ISIL or anything else will be successful from now on. in everyday common language, they are ISIS. (the fact that we know it's an acronym plays even lesser role. nobody will go out of their way to pronounce the whole that is behind that acronym when they can just say ISIS).

    in my own circle of friends and acquaintances it's the same. they're called ISIS. if you said Daesh hardly anyone would know what you were talking about.

    'names' such as these are rather difficult, if not impossible, for human brain to relearn, or rather, to re-habituate to. especially when society at large is not doing it. a few examples here or there won't make any difference.
     
  16. tikoo

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    The Caliphate . That is descriptive politics in a wrd .
     
  17. JNH887

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    I met a ISIS soldier on the internet a few months back. He was not supposed to be on the site he was on but he was there. He was not very open at first about who he was but eventually came clean after I talked to him for a while. He basically believed in the creation of the Islamic State and wanted that to come about. When asked about the human rights violations and atrocities committed by ISIS he merely said, "Well I'm not involved in that. I am just a simple soldier."
     
  18. xenxan

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    Isis was an Egyptian Queen or Goddess, mother of Horus and a beautiful name for a girl. Also Isis falls in to the belief in the Sirius star system where many ancients believe we came from or received help from. The latter I envision.

    So we could get real ancient when referring to ISIS and Syria (aka Sirius) in their ancient cultural text and meanings. :dizzy2:

    So I type or say ISIS but I cringe at the fact we have turned a positive ancient belief into a negative greed filled hate.
     
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  19. themnax

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    some of you may remember how the moral majority was neither moral nor a majority,
    well the islamic state, is neither islamic nor a state.
     
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  20. Asmodean

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    We didn't ;) It just looks like they have the same name.
     

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