What Do You Think Of The Religious Freedom Restoration Act Bill?

Um...So, what do you all think of the Religious Freedom Restoration Act, currently being debated in the Georgia House?

 

Edit--I was in a cranky mood when I wrote my original post.

 

I'm thinking probably both, for those who have genuine religious concerns it will bring religious freedom but you know as well as I do that there will be the unscrupulous using it as a license to discriminate

 

All it is is a license to discriminate. It's a shield against anti-discrimination laws. We already have freedom of religion.

 

My original point was it screws up more people's rights they just got that seem to me to matter more than who.can go in who's business. It's america. Grow up and go where you fit best not worst.
But the passe' stain patrol of automatic parrot with no real answers either got me a min

 

In New York City; some conservative Jewish shop owners state they do not want: "scantily clad" females entering their store.

Is this denial of service?

 

Borderline case. Dress codes are widely accepted for restaurants, bars, and nightclubs, but local indecent exposure laws generally prevail in the retail world. Shopping would be difficult if every business had a different set of rules.

Unfortunately, legal clarification on every issue like this is probably going to be needed, as society becomes more and more polarized. Conservatives are getting really tired of social liberals having personal freedom.

As I understand the Georgia law, every business would have the right to have different rules for entry, based on the owner's personal religious views.

 

Here is how the issue played in New Jersey:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/12/30/nj-rules-against-church-g_n_154128.html

 

In Williamsburgh, Brooklyn, a gentrifing hipster haven, local conservatives objected to a City-sanctioned bicycle lane.

It seems that those same "scantilly clad" ladies were bicycling thru in the Summer, leading to corruption of morals.

The Conservatives took it upon themselves to paint over the bicycle lane obliterating it.

 

sounds like a really major self contradiction in terms. even just the name of it.

 

Is there an update on the Georgia bill?

A similar law just passed in Indiana, and large companies are already making plans to boycott events in Indianapolis. I hope Atlanta doesn't suffer the same fate.

 

The vote is coming up April 2nd, I think.

 

The law that just passed in Indiana was signed in secret behind closed doors...


And it's valid.

 

So much talk about the rights of restaurant owners to refuse service to gay couples... makes me wonder...

Where exactly is it in the christian bible that gay people should not be allowed to buy food?

Or are the fundamentalists making up these rules as they go along?

 

Back in the 70's six friends and I decided to go to a very expensive restaurant for dinner to celebrate resolving a problem affecting each of our code. We ascended the escalators to the floor where the elevator would take us to the restaurant but were turned away for not having ties, although otherwise neatly dressed.

I briefly scanned the Georgia bill, but didn't find anything bothersome in it.

If a restaurant owned by gays decided to refuse service to straight couples would there be an uproar demanding government to step in and take action or would suits be filed claiming and being awarded exorbitant settlements? Personally, I would simply look for another restaurant to eat at.

As for the 'Religious Freedom Restoration Act' bill, it appears to be nothing more than a necessary consequence resulting from the depth which the Federal government has become involved in societal life of a large and diverse population.

 

In that case, you should not own a business.

A business is a public thing - for a country to be free, you can't be free to provide services for some people but not others, in a systematic way, or you are the one removing their freedom, not vice versa. You can choose to provide services or goods casually to acquaintances , but if you want the benefits of the public at large having access to your business, you cannot exclude parts of that public.

As a private individual, you don't have to let anyone into your home or other property. As a business owner, you are taking on a social responsibility, and that responsibility is to everybody.

You have the right to practice any religion you want - and if your belief precludes you from properly running a business, you don't have the right to run that business - everyone else has the right to equal protection and freedom from your religion.

You don't have to play nice with others, but if you can't, get the fuck off the jungle gym, that bench has your name on it.

 

A sole proprietorship is a business privately owned by a single person, who in my opinion is free to provide services to whoever he/she pleases. Not providing services to someone for whatever reason does not infringe on their freedom, but simply on their choices resulting in that businesses loss being another businesses gain.

 

It's the tyranny of the majority punishing people for not being like everyone else.
If they hate gays that much, they should move to Russia.

It's amazing how people who claim to be the most patriotic can show so much contempt for the values of western liberal democracy.

 

Really now, how many decades past did you have to go to find those?