What Do You Think Of The Religious Freedom Restoration Act Bill?

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Aerianne, Mar 16, 2015.

  1. Karen_J

    Karen_J Visitor

    Or they could get together and build a religious compound that includes restaurants and other businesses, like the old PTL (Jim Bakker) complex south of Charlotte. If the whole place was for members only, religious freedom would protect their hateful practices.

    He had to go back to the days when people like you were running everything. Fortunately, it's been a long time.
     
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  2. McFuddy

    McFuddy Visitor

    I think once a person realizes how idiotic patriotism is, this actually becomes less surprising.
     
  3. Individual

    Individual Senior Member

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    We already have a great many small societies throughout the nation, so it isn't necessary to build a religious compound to achieve what you just advocated, and besides there are probably many non-religious persons who hold higher moral beliefs without need to hate but simply do not wish to expose their children to aberrant behavior before they are old enough to understand why it exists, but why such intense desire to project the moral beliefs of others as hateful practices? As for businesses refusing to provide service to lgbt persons, there probably are very few that would, but why would someone feel a need to declare or exhibit their sexual preferences when going to a restaurant or shopping?
     
  4. Individual

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    People like me have never run everything, and if they had we would be debt free, have low unemployment, a strong dollar, much less wealth disparity, no trade deficit, no long term debt, no Federal income tax, and a very small Federal government. Unfortunately, it's been never.
     
  5. Karen_J

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    It always comes back to this fundamental problem; people who believe they think on a higher level than everyone who is different from them. Very sad.

    Do you really think a couple of gay dudes are going to go into a restaurant and start sucking dick at the table? Of course not. What are you people afraid of? What are the kids going to see?

    Children are never too young to learn that there are all kinds of different people in the world. They're going to see it on the sidewalk on the way into the restaurant, unless they live in a tiny redneck town that has zero tolerance for diversity.
     
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  6. Individual

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    A problem arises only when ones moral beliefs incites them to inflict harm on another.
     
  7. Individual

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    And I see no reason they would be denied service if they simply went into a restaurant ordered and ate their meal. If they did start sucking dick at the table I would expect them to be quickly thrown out. However, if a gay couple went into a restaurant yelling out "we're gay and we're going to eat here", I would still have no problem with the owner kicking them out. Is it important for gay persons to extol their difference publicly?


    You people?
     
  8. Individual

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    There are some things I would not like my children, or more appropriately, my grandchildren to be exposed to in a way that is presented as something to choose from. I have no problem or animosity towards those who are biologically predisposed to aberrant behavior of one kind or another, including rednecks.
     
  9. scratcho

    scratcho Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    We, as a roofing company, have installed roofing for gays, lesbians and straights. How they conducted their private lives had no effect on us or our obligation to provide them with the best job possible. These transactions had no effect on us whatsoever. We roofed. They paid. Pretty simple, actually. How others live their lives is of no consequence to me, short of harm. Couple 'a guys want to get married? How does that affect me? Couple 'a women? Trans? Doesn't. I keep my nose where it belongs. In my business. I'm not interested in assuming that I know the correct moral stance for others to have. 'do unto others as you would have them do unto you', was taught to me at a young age and has served me well.


    CAME BACK TO ADD: AND MY CHILDREN AND GRAND CHILDREN ARE AND HAVE BEEN TAUGHT THE SAME.
     
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  10. Karen_J

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    We already have laws against that.

    Any restaurant can already throw you out for shouting and disrupting the peace while others are trying to enjoy a meal. We don't need a new law for that.

    Laws and regulations like we're talking about here tend to turn into rules against appearing to be gay. People who look a certain way become guilty until proven innocent. This reminds me of middle school homophobia. We don't need to inflict that kind of immaturity on adult society.

    People who think this law (and others like it, in other states) is a good idea.

    It's up to you how you explain the world to them. The first thing they need to learn is that people are different. They will have to deal with that reality for the rest of their lives.
     
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  11. Karen_J

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    Shame on you for not forcing them to be wet and cold, until they repent and start following Jesus! ;) Their money is contaminated!

    Also, you should not put a roof on a house where shellfish is served and eaten. The Old Testament says it is an "abomination" to the Lord, the same word that it uses to describe homosexuality.
     
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  12. scratcho

    scratcho Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    I know. I'm so ashamed of myself, I'll be kneeing myself in the crotch forthwith!
     
  13. MeAgain

    MeAgain Dazed & Confused Lifetime Supporter Super Moderator

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    Sounds like you should run for President.

    What's the difference? Intolerance can always arise. Those signs are an example of the right of the individual private owner to exclude certain types of people from their place of business.
    If it's not right to exclude anyone based on nationality, race, religion, age, disabilities, or gender; why would it be alright to exclude gays or any other minority group or individual in a public accommodation?

    Invoking religious beliefs in an attempt to circumvent this law is to show the shallowness of the religion cited and the prejudice of those who use that religion as an excuse to persecute others.

    Is this sign more acceptable than the others?​
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  14. Karen_J

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    Unfortunately, some want to put all of this back on the table. I used to think these were settled issues, forever.
     
  15. tikoo

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    When making a wedding cake is a sacred thing for a prayerful artisan devotee to do , then
    of course the maker may be respected and protected .
     
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  16. Karen_J

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    ???
     
  17. Individual

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    Too old now.
     
  18. Individual

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    Intolerance has and will always exist. A number of States have already passed a similar bill back when Clinton was president. Have any signs similar to those that have been shown appeared in any of those States? Maybe you haven't noticed but, times have changed.

    Rather than provide examples from 60 or more years ago, let's see some current examples.
     
  19. Individual

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    Please give an example of where this law is being circumvented.
     
  20. MeAgain

    MeAgain Dazed & Confused Lifetime Supporter Super Moderator

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    Here's just one, I'm not going to waste my time.
     

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