What Do You Think of Time Travel?

Or not.

We could just become pathetic ghosts that shamble to the office and back every day, forever.

 

like the light of a burned-out star
only reaching us now, it's tragic demise...:beatnik:

 

Yep.... So time travel does exist.. As you can plainly see.

"There once was a knight of old, who wanted to be really bold. He got on his horse, picked up his sword in search of a fight.
He set out that day, in a relative way, and returned the previous night!"

Yep... For all we know, ALL the stars we see in the sky might already be black holes, as we are seeing light that is billions upon billions of years old. Of course, there isn't really anyway for us to know that right now.

 

Wake up..... It's tomorrow!

 

lol

 

Nuh Uh! Whenever you actually get to "tomorrow" it becomes "today" so in essence tomorrow never comes!

See, if you wake up, and then the current space and time you are occupying is now, "tomorrow" has moved yet again out of reach.. Constantly in front of us... Cheeky Bugger. I guess that's why politicians are always talking about "the changes of TOMORROW" as they know it'll never come, and are laughing as they keep everything EXACTLY the same. :afro:

 

You can only travel to the future, and you can only experience the past.

 

that's not time travel. that's signal delay. simple result of speed of light not having an infinite value. nothing actually travels through time here.

 

i'm a traveler of time and space...

 

But that signal technically came from the past, as it takes time to reach you you know? Admittedly, it is a stretch, but that could be construed as time travel.

And THERE is time travel. You can actually watch a horse race in California, and place a bet BEFORE the race ends on the TV in Oregon, and WIN!

There was a CSI episode about that I think....

:afro:

 

Time...


It's takes our minds a certain amount of time to react to a stimuli, fractions of a second, and then another millisecond or so to formulate a response plan which it sends back to the body for application. "jumping out of the path of a moving vehicle".

So the stimuli is actually in the future and our response takes moments to be formulated. Note that this is all happening in the NOW... Which is someplace none of us have ever been because we are thinking about the past while planning our future.

:willy_nilly:

 

Here's some tinfoil for your hat, dude.

 

That's okay, I got a roll of my own... Thanks anyway.

 

That only becomes time travel because of arbitrary impositions of time zones.

 

by that logic everyone on this planet has time traveled. when you board a plane in Milan by the time you walk out of the JFK the time has moved on. you also 'technically' came from the past. you didn't instantly cross over.

it's not even a stretch. it's fail at basic logic. you don't travel through time at any point during your flight from Italy to New York. neither do the stars whose light reaches us with a delay on the scale of millions of light years. the fact that the star is dead but we're still seeing it is not time travel. it's simple signal delay. the fact that you still see the star doesn't resuscitate the damn thing; the star no longer exists in any form at all, we can only look at it like we can look at a film in a theater or listen to music on our stereo. which are completely analogous examples in this case, by the way. unless you think watching TV, movies, and listening to music can also be construed as time travel...

 

i live in the present. you can think about the past and the future but you always do it in the present. it's not possible for you to do it in the past or in the future. everything you'll ever do will happen in the present.

 

So, by this logic.... Signal Delay is not time travel, as it happens on an ongoing basis?

But the simple fact that the signal is delayed means that it is coming from the past. Well, sort of..

So, basically you are saying that signal delay is not time travel. But this in turn mean that time travel does not exist..

So if I somehow miraculously showed up in 1979 that would also be "signal delay"

I am using an extreme example, but I want to understand your way of thinking So, if I send an e-mail, but it doesn't get there until next week, that is signal delay.. However, the topic in that e-mail is from the past, and you are reacting to the past, so that means you are "in the past" no?

:afro:

 

They aren't arbitrary. They're based on the Earth's rotation.

 

Oh noes!!! That means that the timezones we have come to love and know are ALL WRONG!!

The earth as you know back in 2006 lost some time due to the earthquake that caused that massive Tsunami....

So, I guess due to that... We are all living in the past........ As the day now takes a tad longer than it did before given the rotation of the planet? :afro:

 

your definition of time travel appears to be anything coming from the past into the present time.

EVERYTHING comes from the past technically. and it's headed in the direction of future. the next second that happens is future. but the fact is that you can only experience the present. you can't break free from that.

the moment i post this message on this thread will take place in the future. i can't post in now. i can't skip ahead and just be done with it. i have to write it. if i could skip the writing stage and just move on to the posting stage, that would be time travel. time travel is skipping doing all the procedures necessary for specific future development, but getting to that exact same future anyways without doing anything about it. or going back into the past. that is what people usually mean when talking about time travel.

light, emails, and video/audio signals are not traveling through time when they pass through their specific media (air, vacuum; copper, silver, gold, etc). they are simply limited in their progress by the physical nature of the medium they pass through and interaction between themselves and those media. this is signal conduction. it has absolutely nothing to do with time travel at all. they are two completely different things (albeit one being solely a fanciful concept). i don't know why i'm even debating this. it's common damn logic.

 

This seems to be a semantical discussion at this point...

Since time is part of the very fabric of our universe, we are all subject to it; therefore we're all time (and space) travelers.

But we are locked into the present, we cannot escape it; only in our immagination can we escape the present.