What do you think?

In some cases. I've seen the situation that I described. I've not seen yours, though, which is why I didn't put that in my post.

 

Not mine personally, but the way it works legally is

if you sign on the dotted line on the Birth Certificate where it says "Father"

You are on the hook to pay for the kid for 18 years no matter what.

 

Oh, well, that really isn't fair.

But in the cases I know of, the man didn't sign the birth certificate. The woman told him he was the father and so he started paying and all of that, but wanted a paternity test. And she put it off. When the child was 5, it finally happened, proving him NOT to be the father. And he didn't get reimbursed.

 

You betcha. It's called "paternity fraud" it happens to the best of us. There was some rich country singer just found out his little heifer was off to stud with another stallion.

 

These cross recitations of how people are treated poorly because of their sex show that stereotyping still exists and that sexism is still alive. Sexism effects both sexes and both men and women need to oppose it. This thread already touched on the problem of discussing sexism (not only a woman's issue) in a Women's Issues Forum.

About the OP and the original question, either the OP has a selective memory or the teacher is an idiot. She says that "men should do the lifting, women shouldn't have to" and when a young man complains she accuses him of sexism. Stupid woman. Especially stupid because she didn't realize that the complaint was a joke and was taken as such by the other students.

 

Lol, thx for defending me Megara. Yeah, i wasn't insulted at all. Lol, i'm simply asking if i stepped out of line with my retort. And, yes, where else should i have posted it? It just seemed to me that women would be the best at telling me whether I was out of line or not with my comment.

 

And yes, I really think I am on the right track. I am completly with you guys. I'll be the first to admitt, many men ARE jerks. And the fact that women don't get paid equally to men bothers me as well. But i made what i thought to be a somewhat witty retort. I think that by simply asking if i was out of line or not shows that i'm not some stupid sexsist guy. I'm sry that i offended you Maggie Sugar. I tried to convey that i'm not sexsist, and i didn't mean for it to be a sexsist comment. I think there is a fine line between poking fun at women or men with sexsism, or out right being sexsist. If you can't even use sexism with jokes or whatever, at appropriate times, doesn't that basically defy what were all trying to accomplish? We are all looking for a world where we don't have to watch every little thing we say, because it's not even an issue.

 

Ok, i thought about it some more last night, and i realized why you may be upset with what i said Maggie Sugar. When i said "you were the ones who wanted equal treatment", it was meant as a joke, that is in no way my personal beleif. And the only reason i even brought it up was so i could find out if i had stepped across some line or not.

 

I had no way of knowing that. If everyone in the room where it was said knew it was a real joke and not a "this is how I feel, but am going to make it look like a joke, so I don't get stomped." then it was a different situation that you first explained. I hope that you did mean it as a joke and that the people involved didn't think you were being sexist. To be honest, what the people in that room thought is much more important than what myself or anyone else here thinks. They were the ones involved.

The thing is, I heard "You got everything you wanted" all the time, usually by people who have no idea what sexism really is.

Hey, I have a sense of humor. I don't get offended at even the most sexist jokes ON THE JOKE FORUM, which is where they belong. The thing is, when you are in school, it is hard to tell if something you said to a teacher was taken as a joke. I said yesterday, your teacher obviously didn't know the meaning of the word "Chivalry" and someone teaching school should know proper English. Maybe you misunderstood what she meant, as well. (did she expect someone to come out with a suit of armor on ) I have no idea, I wasn't there.

Maybe I misunderstood what your intent was when you first posted as well. I apologize if I misunderstood. If your intention was just to know if you had been sexist or not, then perhaps I overreacted.

Truce, my man, Okay?

 

yeah no worries. It's always hard to convey exactly what happened when you read something, cuz if u emphasize a different word, or anything, the meaning of the sentence changes. yeah, i should have wrote that when i said that, it was meant to be a joke, and those are not my personal views at all. I thought when i originally wrote it it would be clear that i'm not sexsist, but u had no way of knowing that. I really did simply want to know if i'd overstepped a boundary or not. Were doing the play oklahoma, so men give their seats to women, and only the men can lift the benches out on to stage. So she said that men were chivilrous back then. Everyone else in the room thought it was funny, except the teacher. So i really was just curious as to yur opinions. Whether she had over-reacted, or if i had indeed gone too far. Anyway, we can have a truce Maggie Sugar. Lol, i never knew we were at war.

 

We're not at war. I didn't think so, just trying to extend the Olive Branch.

 

/me visualises MaggieSugar spanking someone with an olive branch

 

Maybe the teacher did the kid a favor. Sure he got a laugh from the comment from a bunch of kids in a classroom - you can get a classroom full of teenagers to laugh over anything, but that shit would only be funny for so long. I'd just take it as some discouragement from being known for that kinda humor. I've known my fair share of adult men that bumble on with those remarks while everyone else rolls their eyes and avoids conversation with them.

The teacher's joke was just as stupid though...chivalry? Ya, cause you KNOW the middle ages were just wonderful for women