What does Islam say about:

Discussion in 'Islam' started by OlderWaterBrother, Feb 20, 2010.

  1. ChronicTom

    ChronicTom Banned

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    So, I say I am neither muslim or of islam, and that you should talk to someone who is, and your response is to continue to push me for answers?

    You don't in any way shape or form care about finding out what those of this faith think, as you demonstrate by this attitude, so why are you in this forum?

    Are you here only to start a fight?
     
  2. OlderWaterBrother

    OlderWaterBrother May you drink deeply Lifetime Supporter

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    You seem to be the only one fighting, I'm just waiting for someone to answer the questions. If you can't answer the questions why are you even posting in this thread?
     
  3. thedope

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    This is a total misrepresentation. So far no Muslim has responded. It appears that you do not seek answers, but to divert your issues with stoney to a different thread. You do not anticipate being converted.
     
  4. OlderWaterBrother

    OlderWaterBrother May you drink deeply Lifetime Supporter

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    No, it is a representation of what has occured in this this thread so far.

    I still answer stoney in the other threads and so this is no attempt to divert anything anywhere.

    I never said I was asking these questions to be converted, I plainly stated in the OP; "I am not a Muslim but was wondering what answers Islam gives to these questions".
     
  5. ajit24

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    I do not know what islam said about who is god but i do believe in god and his existence and act knowing his presence
     
  6. thedope

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    "So instead of asking questions about Islam in in the Christian forums I thought that questions about Islam should be asked in the Islam forum."

    You were saying?
     
  7. sathead

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    Some Muslims could believe in the Son OR a Son of God: couldn't they? But for what i read to them it was to rejoice that we didn't have to believe in One. If all came from one, that was the nature to Know it in a certain Way.
     
  8. OlderWaterBrother

    OlderWaterBrother May you drink deeply Lifetime Supporter

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    Seems pretty plain to me.

    Once again, what are the chances that someone will actually answer the questions of the OP and not do everything else but?
     
  9. Grim

    Grim Wandering Wonderer

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    To be fair, like a month ago I asked you to prove to me that the Bible was legitimate and infallible without using Bible quotes or just saying "because God"...and you did a tap dance around it for two weeks before I gave up.
     
  10. famewalk

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    St. Mary, what about St. Mary?: all of you must believe that She conceived God as a Virgin? Incidentally, I read that over quickly earlier and concluded it was an appropraitely slanted representation about the Koran's reasoning about the elimination of the original Sin from physical birth.


    In the Quran: it reads,: "... for You are the best Sustainer of our needs..." in other words of some sort of expected blasphemy. Then... "... Allah will send send down to you this <goodness for progress>. But if any of you after that resists faith, I will punish him... like any one among all the peoples<of progressive beliefs>."

    Necessity comes from the West but is not free of falsification and danger. Huh.
     
  11. thedope

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    It could not be her conception if she was a virgin, but you are correct that her story is a door stop.
     
  12. deleted

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    it is better to worship the true g-d for one moment, than follow the works of men for a lifetime..
     
  13. OlderWaterBrother

    OlderWaterBrother May you drink deeply Lifetime Supporter

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    Oh and just to be fair as soon as you do this, I will do that for you;
    [SIZE=-1][SIZE=-1]make me a cambric shirt
    Without no seams nor needlework
    find me an acre of land
    Between the salt water and the sea strand [/SIZE][/SIZE]

    reap it with a sickle of leather
    [SIZE=-1][SIZE=-1]And to gather it all in a bunch of heather [/SIZE][/SIZE] :D
     
  14. OlderWaterBrother

    OlderWaterBrother May you drink deeply Lifetime Supporter

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    When did the Islam forum turn into RT?
    I'm not asking for the impossible, at least I don't think so, I would just like to know the answers to a few questions from the viewpoint of someone who is Islamic. I'm not putting any conditions on it, like don't quote the Quran or say you can't say "because God says....". I am just asking what do Muslims believe about these questions:
    Who is God?
    Does God have a proper name?
    What are God's qualities?
    Why do we grow old and die?
    Where are the dead?
    Who is Christ Jesus?
    Are there wicked spirits?
    If so what is the origin of Satan?
    Why Has God Permitted Wickedness Until Our Day?
     
  15. MattB

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    I know a little Islam

    The Islamic God is the God of Abraham, and possesses the same characteristics. Oneness, omniscience, omnipotence, forgiving, creator etc...

    He has 99 names in tradition that refer to characteristics, but Allah is like the most inclusive or whatever.

    God weighs a mans soul upon his death and decides if he is fit for heaven or hell.

    Jesus of Nazareth was in fact a prophet from God, but not His son nor conceived of His being.

    The angels were ordered by God to bow to Adam as the first human. Ibliss (sp?) refused because he saw himself as superior.
     
  16. OlderWaterBrother

    OlderWaterBrother May you drink deeply Lifetime Supporter

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    Thanks, It's nice to know someone is willing to try and answer, even though you say you only a little about Islam.
     
  17. Grim

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    So predictable.

    So in other words you are simply another of the "I believe this thing is correct because it says it is correct and I believe it is correct..." types.

    You can throw bible quotes with the best of them, but you only seem to have anything close to the proper interpretation half the time at best. You challenge other people's beliefs but are far too insecure in your own foundations to ever actually respond to a challenge, not just toss verses at it.

    It's a shame, and your posts are a shameful example of how some people handle their faith.
     
  18. OlderWaterBrother

    OlderWaterBrother May you drink deeply Lifetime Supporter

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    You can think what you want but there are many things that prove the Bible is the Word of God but putting impossible conditions on a challenge proves nothing.

    Please note the "challenge" that I have made in the OP, there are no conditions to tie the hands of the answerer, so that no matter what answer is given, I could say you didn't follow the conditions so your answer is wrong, like you do.

    And speaking of shameful posts, so far in this thread, all your posts have had nothing to do with the OP and are just trolling. :D
     
  19. Grim

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    You are demanding answers about Islam yet when ignored claim it means this reflects on Islam itself, when answered claim the answers are bad or erroneous, and in actuality have no genuine curiosity for Islam and are simply hoping to evangelize in yet another thread.

    You say I'm trolling, but you've turned the entire Christian faith into a tool by which to troll. Which is worse?
     
  20. OlderWaterBrother

    OlderWaterBrother May you drink deeply Lifetime Supporter

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    Demanding answers? When answered claim the answers are bad or erroneous? Only one person has even tried to answer the questions, so far and this is what I said:
    How was that saying that the answers were bad or erroneous? And then you accuse me of having "no genuine curiosity for Islam". Please, you no idea whether I have a "genuine curiosity for Islam" or not.
    Anyone can see that you are trolling, you have yet to respond to the OP and all you've done is attack me and that is pretty much the meaning of trolling.
     
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