What I Hate About My Athiest Friend

to hate anyone for their beliefs or lack of them, totally misses the point of all belief.

i don't think anyone, who is sufficiently secure in their own deep and abiding beliefs, whatever they might happen to be, would have this problem at all. it is only fanatacism, which uses belief as an excuse, more then actually cares about it at all, that raises this kind of question in the first place.

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Christmas is a pretty secular holiday anyway.

 

yeah, if you've got stock in fao shwartz

 

Themnax

agree. i'd go as far as to say. One who believes they are correct in hating
someone else for their beliefs. Has no point.

I might point out also. Everything is belief.
Even 'Cogito ergo sum'. We can prove nothing to others.
We can prove to our own reason that we exist...and thats about it.

Occam

 

agree

Occam

 

i am an atheist and most of my friends are christian or jewish. i "try" to respect their religious beliefs. however, many christians believe their viiew is the only one. i attempt to tell them that they should be tolerant of the beliefs or disbeliefs of others. however, when i feel i am being bombarded with religion, i sometimes lash out at them. i am not proud of myself for doing this but, i have done it.

 

bkcmar

Understood.. and i can though experience sympathisze.
Many times at social engagements have had 1/2 dozen
crazies spouting catholicism or born again creationism
for example.
I try to look at them like a pack of 4 year olds who all
want the red lunch pack..
It 'caught there eye.'



Occam

PS..I consiser he athiest opinion to be a waypoint on the
road from 'belief' to 'what is'.i was one myself and it is a
valid position but for one analogy, like Einstein veiwing the
orbit of mercury.. something aint quite right.

 

I am jewish but I am still very much an athesit that the grat thing about judism you can question and argue and not believe in anything as u wish. They even have certain phrases for the asthesit jew on shabbat. My synagaue is reformed and they have so far never given me any promblems for my lack of belief if anything they have supported me in everything.

 

putting down things like christmas is what being an atheist is all about! but if you really find it hurtful, and your friend is actually your friend, just tell them to stop. its simple.

 

A-fucking-men to that! That is my biggest problem with a lot of people: they just don't know when to keep their mouths shut. I don't know what the exact circumstances were for the original poster, but if it was just a friend saying "jesus doesn't exist" just to piss you off or start an argument, then you should politely tell them to fuck off. If it was for another reason, then use your own logic in the situation, but there isn't any reason why beliefs need to be pushed upon someone. As you said, you don't push your beliefs on her, then why the hell should she be pushing hers on you? If it is a debate, then so be it. I am a very argumentative person and love to debate, but there is a certain point when a comment becomes just a way to push beliefs on someone. I am semi-religious but at the same time rather agnostic/atheist, so I tend to argue both ways, mostly because I hate it when people push their beliefs. The best way to handle beliefs is to keep them to yourself. If someone asks, tell them. If nobody asks, then keep your damned mouth shut! As for the thing about chocolate cars, that is a good example, and it would be wrong of a friend not to point out that that belief is way off. Although many people believe that religion, or more specifically belief in god, is way off, nobody can prove OR disprove his/her existence, so it is a null point. Arguing a null point, or in this case pushing a religious belief on someone, is pointless and equivalent to beating the proverbial dead horse. So, give it up and stop pushing beliefs on people!

 

Exactly. Also, Tell Your Friend How That Makes You Feel--She May Not Realize How Much Her Comments Hurt You.

 

Mushie Man

Fuckin A to that from this corner too.
People that actually walk around PUSHING there belief or non belief on others.
What they are saying in their method is that your a fool who can work things out for yourself and need their help to do so.. Lol..

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