What If The System Crashed

Discussion in 'Random Thoughts' started by Sleeping Caterpillar, Jul 31, 2015.

  1. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    All the energy alternatives we know about are bogus, because there is something called FREE ENERGY (or zero point energy) technology, which is energy from the vacuum of space, which could completely eliminate not only the need for oil, but also nuclear, solar, wind and hydroelectric power. This is basically the type of energy that Nikola Tesla brought forward, which is kept in the hands of powerful governments, away from the people, because they want to keep us dependent on oil and in the state of artificial scarcity they have created.

    So I don't even talk about solar energy, because it is part of a phony debate centered around the artificial scarcity the system itself creates to keep humanity enslaved. The fact is, the technology exists to completely eradicate all existing and inefficient sources of energy.

    Look into the work of cold fusion scientist Eugene Mallove, who was murdered over this technology.
     
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  2. Moonglow181

    Moonglow181 Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    I wouldn't be surprised, Rat....You make sense here.
     
  3. Karen_J

    Karen_J Visitor

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  4. NoxiousGas

    NoxiousGas Old Fart

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    Well after digging around a bit I found we are both wrong...LOL
    I thought it was a modified Barrett, but it's not and it's not some redneck Frankenstein weapon.
    It is actually a Finnish 20mm anti-tank gun, the Lahti L-39.
    Most likely retrofitted for .50 BMG

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lahti_L-39
     
  5. AceK

    AceK Scientia Potentia Est

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    So far, researchers have only been able to produce very minuscule effects from the former. Fusion energy seems more promising. By fusing hydrogen nuclei you could potentially produce all the power you needed from ordinary water, by using a tiny portion of the output to electrolyze water into hydrogen.
     
  6. deleted

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    field pigeon breast isnt that bad..


    tesla energy creates more extreme weather conditions, than that of those conditions we currently are experiencing today..
     
  7. Tyrsonswood

    Tyrsonswood Senior Moment Lifetime Supporter

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    And you are powering your apartment with this, right?
     
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  8. Moonglow181

    Moonglow181 Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    I agreed on principle of Rat's. I am sure there are other answers to the problems, but since big business rules the country anyway, they are blocked.....Will never matter who the president is....as he is just the front man, and if not....he might as well fear for his life.
     
  9. themnax

    themnax Senior Member

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    galvanic skin response is free. i don't know if it comes from the vacuum between the ears, but i kind of doubt you could power very much with it.
    there is a reason why people who have some idea how things actually work, often end up with flat foreheads.
    yes there are detectable currents generated by the magnetic fields of planets. no they are not generated by vacuum, nor come from there.
    and no, you are not going to run your house or your car off of them. i think when people first came up with that idea of doing so, it was intended as some kind of a joke.
    solar, wind, geothermal and several others are very real, and technologies to harness them are off the shelf available here and now.
    fission is real, but still a fossil, in the sense of not being self renewing. fussion is a maybe. there's no theoretical reason against it, buuuuuut, getting more out that goes in to 'start' it, has yet to be achieved.

    at any rate, you're the last 20 humans on the planet, even if you're all super genius hackers, you ain't gonna be harnessing 'free energy', nor building a nuclear power plant.
    but you might be burning methane from poop. and you can probably find a solar panel and a battery in the ruins somewhere. or build a windmill or water wheel.
     
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  10. Karen_J

    Karen_J Visitor

    You've got all this upside down and backward. Apparently you've never read the Wall Street Journal or anything written by Warren Buffett, or watched CNBC. Big money investing is all about change, not about keeping things the same at any cost. Everybody wants to know what companies are going to be hot next year, not last year.

    The corporate world is in constant turmoil and always has been. This is accepted on Wall Street, not resisted. IBM used to dominate the computer world before Microsoft and Apple took over. Automakers in Detroit were the largest and most important of all American companies until everybody decided they liked Japanese cars better. Railroads were dominant until people accepted airplanes as safe. Nobody tried to kill the Wright brothers for threatening railroad profits. Whaling used to be big business, until whale oil was replaced by kerosene in household lamps. The list goes on and on. I could give dozens of examples.

    When green technologies become more mature and profitable, greedy investors will snatch up those stocks and dump their shares of Exxon. Or, Exxon will buy up some of those companies as subsidiaries, to get those big profits for itself. Or the CEO will simply cash out his stock options and go into a luxury retirement on a tropical island.

    People who are smart with money will always find a way to cash in on whatever products and services are in demand at any given time. The biggest money is made on predicting what's going to be in demand in the future, so Wall Street's elite are always eagerly looking for new business ideas with potential for explosive growth. They know that ten years from now, half of today's top ten companies will have been replaced on the list.

    Somewhere out there, the next generation's Microsoft is probably selling at under $4 a share. Now is the time to buy it. The trick is figuring out which company that is.
     
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  11. NoxiousGas

    NoxiousGas Old Fart

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    you mean it's not all a nefarious global conspiracy that has been in the making since the dawn of civilization?

    now I'm really confused...... :dizzy2:
     
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  12. thedope

    thedope glad attention Lifetime Supporter

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    The free are not concerned about imbalance of accounts
     
  13. Karen_J

    Karen_J Visitor

    :rofl: Not only do top business leaders not agree on everything, they don't even like each other! The backstabbing never ends.

    When the crude oil era finally starts winding down after we've refined some better options, the oil industry won't go quietly, but their maneuvering will prove to be as pointless as whatever the whaling industry did when kerosene was taking their lunch money. History shows that corporate dirty tricks never delay inevitable change for long. Smart oil company executives are already spending a lot of time and effort looking at ways to invest intelligently in green energy companies, in order to maximize long term profits.

    Even if there really was "free" energy available from outer space, you would have to own some kind of equipment to hook it up to your house wiring, and somebody would stand to make some serious money from making and selling that equipment. Investors who knew about such an opportunity would be running around in a semi-orgasmic frenzy, like Jim Cramer.
     
  14. Moonglow181

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    i know it is all about money....what isn't?
     
  15. Karen_J

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    That's the whole point. It works against rich people cooperating with each other. For that reason, conspiracies tend to be small and brief. They end when their short term purpose has been served.

    Investment bankers love the money they make off big oil right now, but they aren't sentimental. They won't hesitate to cut those guys loose if they think they can make more money elsewhere.
     
  16. themnax

    themnax Senior Member

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    the air you breathe isn't, the very means by which nature makes possible life to exist isn't.

    but yes, the rest of that is all true. it just isn't all of what is. it leaves out the part about ego, and the advantage ego takes of it, when not tempered by responsibility and understanding beyond the closed loop of money, when it can.

    money hides behind fanatacism, short term at the expense of long. the ego that knows no pain of everyday living, seeks to impress and be in command. there is no command but still it seeks it.
    so where power can reinstitute a kind of feudalsim it seeks to. conspiracy as such? not exactly.

    but consent of the governed, is see the same as any other obstical by the closed loop of money. that is one thing. where as the complex interactions of life and environment, go one as they do, in complete indifference to the perspectives of symbolic, i.e. 'monetary' wealth.

    resources are fininte. money and nature, each opperate in complete blindness and indifference to each other.
    this leaves a thing which happens in nature, when the population of a species gets out of balance with everything involved in sustaining it.

    wonderfully adoptive and creative as we are, there is no immunity to this process.

    diseases can be cured, but they can also mutate and multiply faster then cures for them can be found. similar goes for famine. both are a likely result of things unlikely to change enough soon enough to prevent.

    this is what i mean by ecopocalyps. it is in our own hands, but only our collective hands. the hands of policy, that money is blind and indifferent too.

    money and nature are both statistics. an individual might live or die, and not greately affect either. yet none of us are unaffected by both.

    there is a difference though. nature, and with it our fate as a species, goes on, and goes on working the way it does, whether anyone prints money or not.

    but the way it works, can stop working for us. we could, and likely will, face extinction or near extinction as a species. money will go on whistling in its own dark. even as we do.
     
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