What is love?

Yes, misinterpretations are inevitable. I realized that being annoyed about it is unnecessary and only traps us in some sort of illusion anyway. And again here, you really can't avoid the misinterpretation because the point of view is entirely different. I'll clarify again, but it's likely the misunderstanding will arise again as well. Anyway, here goes.

No, we're not forced to use language to express and communicate. That's only one kind of communication, and yes it CAN be helpful. However by the very use of it the communication is channelled into duality. The non-duality is perhaps communicated in the ENERGY behind (or beneath) the language, and also as the focal point of the message. In this way the means and the end are as ONE, which offers no separation at any point.

No, I don't see language as something to be overcome. I am pointing out the fact that language is LIMITED and in fully seeing its limitation we can utilize it correctly, without losing awareness of its purpose.

Ok that's it. Time to mow the lawn.

Ciao!

 

Actually no, they're impossible, non-existent. Or at least, that's an argument I believe. The author interprets what they say while they say it, and again after they say it, as much as the reader while he reads it, and after he has read it. We barely understand our own behaviour - we certainly don't control every aspect of what we do, let alone understand without study our reasons for doing it - so it's almost irrational to imagine oneself as constructing something to be accurately or inaccurately interpreted.

Of course, it's only a theory.

I don't know whether any emotion is "necessary" or unnecessary". Far as I can see, it is. It is only us who can decide what we need, rather than what is needed.

I dunno, has no-one ever informed you that "it's not what you said, it's the way you said it"?

I don't know, I think it's what we are. It would trouble me to try and divest myself of that quintessence as much as I hope it would trouble you if someone seriously suggested that starving people should eat each other for a twofold benefit to over-population.

 

The term misinterpretation is just a way of describing it, meaning that there are different reference points from which an entirely different awareness arises. You say that interpretation is always going on, without control or understanding. Well, yes it is... IF one is entirely driven by conditioned mind patterns. And to this I'm sure you will say that this always happens, to which I say no, it's possible to be free of such conditioning. So here we are, having different viewpoints about it.

When I see the truth of something, REALLY SEE it fully as it is, then I recognize what is false. And in the recognition I realize that what is false is not needed. It's not a decision that it's not needed. It's not a mentally efforted or contrived position of how to be and think. It's such a deep recognition of the truth that the falseness just drops away on its own accord, without effort or decision of any kind. Most of what we think and feel is entirely unnecessary as it's based on illusions.

I don't construct words by mental analysis of how the message may or may not be received. Of course this goes against the typical practice of writers who have an agenda to achieve something with a particular audience. I have no such agenda. What I offer is complete, whereby the means and the ends are one and the same. The form of the message arises from the same space as what the message itself points to. I let the words flow as they will, as the inspiration guides them. If editing is to be done, as is occasionally the case, then inspiration guides that as well. If the way the words are written doesn't resonate with you, then (1) either you place too much meaning on the words themselves rather than on the message, or (2) they weren't meant for you. Actually if #1 is the case then #2 goes with it automatically.

I realize this is how you see it. Which begs the question.... why do you engage in discussion with me? For what purpose?

 

How are you more sure that you know it is false than an idiot is convinced he knows everything worth knowing? I don't wish to offend, but I can't remember a time in my life when i didn't think I had the world all figured out, but my opinions and worldview have changed massively. Every time I discover something new it feels like a revelation, like I finally know the difference between truth and the falsely obvious. And then, a few months later, I'll feel the same way about something totally different!

I just wonder how you can be sure? I do not believe that there is no truth or falsehood, but I question how a person can know these things of themselves. It is usually for others to tell you that you are wise.

 

Yes you do. I mean, everyone does to some extent, apart from infants, but you definitely do. The fact that you think about why you are saying what you are saying means that you do analyse what you say. It is pretty much pointless to argue otherwise. But I'm sure you will.

Wow. You have an incredibly high opinion of your own ability to articulate yourself. I have to say, it seems profoundly arrogant to effectively state "if you don't understand, it's not my fault and also I OBVIOUSLY wasn't talking to you".

While I have sought to offer alternative viewpoints in response to other posts you've made, here I simply wish to say: you're wrong. You don't always make yourself clear, and I do not believe that everything I have not understood that you have said could be argued as "not meant for me" - especially when it is posted in a public forum in response to one of my posts with a quote from one of my posts attached to it!

 

If you understand the concept of Revelation, then you can perhaps understand that there's no explaining HOW. It's impossible to explain how I know. But I can tell you this. When I know something to the core of my Being (which isn't really "mine") then there's no doubt about it whatsoever. When I know something that deeply and that completely I am willing to stake EVERYTHING on it, including the life of this body. When I reach this level of awareness it's like a deeply resounding BOOM that is experienced in every cell, in every pore, in every recess of mySelf.

LOL... what should I care whether or not someone thinks me wise, in the presence of such knowing!

 

Do us a favour and don't become a surgeon then, yeah?

 

I know you think I'm wrong. It happens often between us. LOL! Oh well, different viewpoints. C'est la vie.

 

Not really. Sometimes it really isn't a case of "different viewpoints".

When I was in school they used to say "there is no right or wrong answer". When I went to uni they said "there's no right answer". Clever, huh?

 

Anyway i thought i'd point out that love is what you are. - But that doesn't explain mutch does it. It's quite indefinable.

 

LOL! Works for me. It all goes back to this state of "not knowing" anyway.

 

Well today, in our modern society? Love is a product, packaged and sold like any other.

In my eyes, love comes in many forms, but universally it means to be very compassionate about something/someone.

 

Indeed, just now i'm starting to realise what love can give to someone, to share joy and sadness with a person, to ease the burdens and worries.. someone with who you can talk, share your intrests with.. maybe one day i'll find this person.