What is the point of life?

Discussion in 'Mental Health' started by pipster, Mar 20, 2012.

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  1. tuesdaystar

    tuesdaystar Interneter

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    We live a privileged life here in the westernized world. All the food and tv and climate control and clean water and police protection (and so-on) gives us entirely too much time to feel sorry for ourselves for no good reason.

    There are social situations in which you can get hugs just by asking, or without asking at all. There are people you can pay to listen to you. There are Rx drugs meant to recalibrate your brain chemistry into a state of contentment. There are street drugs that will get you too high to care. There are websites that are designed for lonely people looking for companionship.

    And then there's death which is just no more of your life.

    Your options are basically limitless other than being limited by your lifespan
     
  2. SpacemanSpiff

    SpacemanSpiff Visitor

    ignore them

    different people express themselves (and their views/opinions) in different ways
     
  3. aesthetic

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    STOP!

    I was suicidal and attempted it over the account of 3 times, With medication.

    This is not what you want to do, I know you have heard that over and over from the other responses but you need a different perspective. Try looking at existence and explain to me what it is? I want you to forget about killing yourself, call a therapist.

    Have you tried looking into therapy? I did it for a few years and found a different way to vent my emotional distress and schizophrenic episodes. I still have episodes but I am way better around people! I am not completely fixed but it helped me a lot! and gave me wonderful insight on human psychology.

    just in case you think a therapist is for schizophrenics or couples and such.

    Could you do me a favour and come check back in tommarrow?

    SEND ME A MESSAGE IF U EVER WANT TO TALK!!!!
     
  4. ChinaCatSunflower67

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    Jumbo Go Away, its the next song on the album. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IjSIcTlOCok"]Jumbo Go Away - Frank Zappa - YouTube

    ...by the way, dont do yourself in just yet, if the world is ending 2012, you might as well hang in there till then :D
     
  5. Invisible Soul

    Invisible Soul Burning Angel

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    I have long known that in all probability, I will spend my whole life alone. I knew this even when I was still a child. As I get older, the lack of romantic companionship in my life gets harder to deal with, but still I get on with things as best I can, and know that no matter how difficult and painful my life is, there are those out there even worse off than me.

    For me, I found solace in feline companionship. And came to the realisation that I have been put on this earth for one reason only, and that is to take care of cats. I was pretty much cursed from day one, and knew early on that I'd never be with anyone ever. For a long time, I wondered what on earth I was put here for, and recently, I think I finally found the answer.

    All of us are here for a reason, you just have to figure out what that reason is. Also, there is probably no reason why you can't find companionship, other than your own insecurities.
     
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  7. Logan 5

    Logan 5 Confessed gynephile Lifetime Supporter

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    So where did you earn the right to hate? You're 24, right? Ok, how did you earn the right to hate?

    What do you expect? That the first girl you meet is going to be your one and only from now until the end of time as we know it? Did something happen that makes you so much more special than the rest of us? That your life is supposed to be so perfect and without errors?

    How do you have no family? No friends? Before you can be accepted by others you must first love and accept yourself.

    Why not just be yourself? You want companionship? Is that companionship or do you just wanna get laid? Man, I'd love to have a woman to hug and kiss as well. Join the club. Does it hurt? Yeah. But we get used to it.

    Ffffffftftftftftftftftft! Come on! Just a year? I've been without a GF since 2004. And you're upset because it's been a year for you?

    No you won't. You're just flapping your lips as you type. You just want attention. Nothing wrong with that, but it's all wrong in how you're asking.


    Dude, come on. We were all kids once. And I remember back when I had similar feelings. Man, it feels so awful, like there is nothing there. No one to hold me, no one to make me feel better. The lack of foresight is traumatizing. The loneliness is absolutely horrible. Been there, done that.

    Then I met this one fella, and he kept laughing at me. I told him to stop it. He kept laughing, and it seemed like he was laughing harder. Boy, that just made me so mad! Then he asked me why I felt like I did. And I told him because there is no tomorrow! There is no future! There is nothing there for me!

    And he started laughing again. And he was enjoying it. I got mad and told him how much I hate him. And he kept laughing. Then he asked "why do you hate me?" And I told him it's because he's laughing at me.

    He then pointed out the truth to me- I didn't hate him, I hated myself for not having any foresight. I had no future because I wasn't making my future. If you're gonna build a dream ya gotta have plans, and if you're gonna start making plans, you have to have a dream. I was 15. I'm now 42.

    Golly geee whiz. The OP is 24. Yep. End of the world as we know it!
    HOLOCAUST!
    OH MY GOD!!!!!

    All because some 24 year old kid isn't dreaming of his future enough to start planning it. Ok everybody. It's all over now. Hold your breath now and it'll be allll over soon.

    Let me know when you start gasping and start inhaling again.

    Though I was a kid, I recognize how stupid it was. Wow. Here I was, a kid. And I thought it was all over. That's right! For everyone, because *I* didn't have what I wanted. Riiiiiight. Talk about selfish. Ah. Typical of youth.


    You searched for a whole year? Get any grey hair yet? Make a plan. Here, how about I do it for ya? I'm serious about this! I'm going to make these plans for you and I expect you to hold to them and stay in contact with us to let us know how you're faring, ok?

    Find a community college somewhere and apply for school. This means also applying for student loans, unfortunately. No special course really. It's a community college, so odd are all you can get is a two-year degree. General ed. Specialty? I dunno. Math, business, english comp. Pick one. I don't care. It will be usable in life no matter what, so just pick one, ok?

    Now, once accepted, GO TO COLLEGE!
    Why? Well, you're making plans without making plans. And once you are finished with school, you just might want to go to a 4 year school. again, making more plans.

    You know what that is really called? A good nick name is "winging it". Or "flying solo". But do you know what the real definition is? It's called LIVING YOUR LIFE TO IT'S FULLEST.

    Fuck labels. Fuck plans. Man, just fucking do it. Get out thee and live your life to it's fullest.

    Now I expect you to hold to those plans I made for you. OK?
     
  8. Jack_Straw2208

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    move more eat less fatty
     
  9. pipster

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    Is there any way for me to delete my post? Most of what I said was true, but I realize its a waste of time for people to read my stupid rant, and for me to read their stupid responses. Honestly I think the only good one was the one with the Frank Zappa song. There was plenty of truth in the others, but it was all stuff I have thought of or heard before.

    I realize I am the only person who can make myself happy, but I guess a lack of happiness isn't really why I want to die. I just don't want to be alone. However, I'm pretty sure that I will be for the rest of my life, so the more realistic desire I have is to be able to pull the trigger when I put the gun to my head. Still, I just won't do it for some reason. I am so confused.
     
  10. jaredfelix

    jaredfelix Namaste ॐ

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    good for you man, dont be confused.. its against human nature to take ones own life.
    we are put here to SURVIVE! at all costs! i dont know how the few that manage to pull it off actually do, they must be in a whole other state of mind. cant you put your anger to good use? join the military,,,
     
  11. Raga_Mala

    Raga_Mala Psychedelic Monk

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    You can't pull the trigger because part of you knows that pulling the trigger won't solve the problem. Your aloneness isn't going to get better after you die.

    ...Even if you don't believe in any manner of consciousness after death, you still know deep inside that that annihilation is not better than this loneliness.

    I'm sorry life is rough on you man. Peace and love.
     
  12. Invisible Soul

    Invisible Soul Burning Angel

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    I have often wondered why I am seemingly incapable of killing myself when I've felt in the depths of despair for almost my whole life. I often say it's because I lack the courage to do it, which I think is probably at least partially true, but I think there might be more to it than that. I think maybe, it's the unknown element in death which makes me frightened to do it. The fear that ending my (possibly only current) life will not put an end to my anguish and pain.

    It is interesting that whilst I have contemplated suicide many times over the course of my life, the only time I ever seriously attempted it was when I was drunk. I guess this is why I put not doing it down to lack of courage. Because being drunk often gives you the courage to do things that ordinarily, you wouldn't be able to do.
     
  13. Raga_Mala

    Raga_Mala Psychedelic Monk

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    Alcohol inhibits certain tendencies and magnifies others. It does not grant courage.
     
  14. Invisible Soul

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    I would disagree with that. I certainly believe that the saying "Dutch courage" has more than an element of truth to it.
     
  15. zengizmo

    zengizmo Ignorant Slut HipForums Supporter

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    Speaking as a confirmed alcoholic of longstanding duration, I think I can say with a fair degree of authority that I have the courage to do lots of things when I'm drunk that I could never do when I'm sober.

    And btw pipster, as someone who has also contemplated suicide a helluva lot, I would strongly recommend that you do as I've done and stick with life. The first time I seriously contemplated suicide was when I was 20. I decided immediately afterward that it couldn't get any worse than that, and it could possible get better. As it turned out, it actually got a LOT worse sometimes. However if I had exited at age 20 I also would have never experienced a helluva lot of amazing and joyful things that I never would have dreamed even existed when I was 20. In other words: You just don't never know what's gonna happen. So stick around and find out.
     
  16. SpacemanSpiff

    SpacemanSpiff Visitor


    yeah..it can be deleted...but i think ill just close it instead
     
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