What Is Truth?

Discussion in 'New Age' started by PerennialTruth, Jan 27, 2024.

  1. wooleeheron

    wooleeheron Brain Damaged Lifetime Supporter

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    The absolute truth is, the truth can demonstrably become relative. Classic logic has proven to be inadequate, and fuzzy logic describes the world all around us, along with quantum mechanics.
     
  2. scratcho

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    That which can be demonstratively proven. Opinions are opinions--some true , some false.
     
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  3. wooleeheron

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    The only thing controversial about fuzzy logic and quantum mechanics, is they contradict the lawyers.
     
  4. kinulpture

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    There has to be something behind absolute truth. Otherwise it wouldnt remain that way. & logically that should be enough. & it mostly does work. Probly did work @ its firstbest a lilwhile. Perhaps a few million yrs? But likely there were some original questions. Thus free will was born. Which ironically bolsters absolute. Because even with free will absolute was still adhered to. Otherwise we would just be slaves.
     
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  5. wooleeheron

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    Ironically, the absolute truth is, we have no choice but to exercise our free will.
     
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    A big reason for that. Is our powerful allies mostly arent allowed to help us. Whereas the powerful badguys for whatever reason are allowed to interfere. & we are even occasionally helped by baddies. Aint sayin i agree with that. Nor may it be necessarily be good help. Your figure of 10000yrs should be added to a bit. & we were & are helped by the goodfolks allalong. Its just that some humans are impatient & understandably so.
     
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    Approx 12000Yrs ago was a major cataclysm called younger dryas event. This wiped out many traces of a prior golden age. We have experienced several of these. Another lesser known one was around 1500bc. Sometimes takes awhle to recover from these. Likely we were gifted the relatively recent techs in order to survive what may come.
     
  8. wooleeheron

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    Modern science has finally proven, that what doesn't kill you, makes you more gullible. The wealthy and powerful have been abusing the public, since the invention of agriculture, as a way to make them easier to use and abuse. What modern science won't talk about, is the simple fact they could not teach a child how to use a dictionary if their lives depended on it, and they've made humor taboo, along with the stupid dictionary. But, the truth only hurts for a reason, and I intend to make sure modern science learns that lesson.
     
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    I could go into alotta that. & hard to know where to start. Im & vebeen saddened by the concept of ghost hunting. Which is mostly exploitive. Tho ive heard someve helped lost spirits in recent yrs. & is more.
     
  10. PerennialTruth

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    I agree that there is "something" behind absolute truth. Absolute Truths have the force of law, for lack of a better word. Where there is a law, there must be a source for that law. Discovering that Source is the adventure of spiritual life.
     
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    In the Abrahamic traditions too, truth has been emphasized to be within oneself.

    Jesus's 'The kingdom of God is within you ' , and Muhammad's ' God is closer to you than your jugular vein' emphasizes this fact.

    God is usually considered synonymous with Truth.

    I personally consider this state of accessing the Truth within oneself as enlightenment or Self-realization, termed as Moksha in Hinduism, Nirvana in Buddhism and Fana in Sufism.

    The enlightened state ends all doubts, self-contradictions and psychological suffering permanently. It is also a source of great auspiciousness and healing to nature and humanity. So whoever seeks the inner truth is also a great benefactor to the world.

    'Your own Self-Realization is the greatest service you can render the world.' ~ Ramana Maharshi
     
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  12. wooleeheron

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    The Fine Structure Constant and the Hubble Constant have both become questionable. Pi has turned out to be not random, but obey a fractal equation, and Planck knew from the beginning, there was no way to explain his discovery. John Wheeler said about black holes, "There is no law, except the law, there is no law!"

    Modern science has empowered the Tea Party to censor half of reality, because it doesn't agree with either of their traditional myopic views, or those of modern civilization in general. Neils Bohr demanded his students "Shut Up And Calculate!" Which makes for better nuclear weapons and cellphones, machines with no heart. The Catholic Church threw Galileo in the dungeon, and the truth is now coming out, that money is the root of all evil, in the sciences today. But, you can't stop the signal Mel, warning you of danger ahead!

    The next scientific revolution, will not be televised, it will be anonymous. In a Singularity, everything is self-organizing, including the laws of physics.
     
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  13. wooleeheron

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    I prefer to tell people, "You Are The Singularity Dummy! Get Over It Already!" In modern terms, you are a Singularity that expresses particle-wave duality in everything, which can easily be documented in countless ways, but they're all taboo in modern civilization. Your Singularity, obeys Intuitionistic mathematics and physics, that are also classified. Being a Singularity, means you are magic, explaining quantum mechanics as only remaining a mystery, because the truth is taboo, and half the modern sciences are perhaps 200 years behind as a result.

    Which means, we have a chance to, Save The Damn Planet!
     
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  14. scratcho

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    Yes, I'm sure there's a big ól god somewhere that's right pleased at all the high falutin language / philosophies going on about this and that. Meanwhile: Humans are sacrificing the only decent place known to support us. Humans are starving--humans are dying in ever popular wars. Being slaughtered basically. All the platitudes in the world do not change the fact that : WE'RE HUMANS. Oops--too bad--so sad. At my age I can now see that the whole thing is naught but a cruel joke. Just remember:

    BUY MORE. BUY MORE NOW. (And then: go back to sleep)
     
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    Mother Nature thinks you are cute, like a toddler with a diaper full of crap, babbling nonsense, and hitting each other with toys, pretending to be mortal.
     
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    Metaphorical wonderland. Shields galore.:sunglasses:
     
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  17. wooleeheron

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    Up, Up, Up, Up is the only possible direction, in this sad clown town, but try explaining that to a card carrying republican.
     
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    We are but fragments of wot we used to be. & this fragmentation varies. This was internally conduced probly over many lifetimes. & if ya dont believe in that we were fragmented thru our archetypes. This is in addition to all the other external manipulation. Ive been informed some of this was voluntary. Ive been formulating a theory we became a sorta roach motel to trap the badfolks. Worked all too well.
     
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    According to Game Theory, if the human mind and brain were ever capable of modeling reality, we would already be extinct. Think not outside the box, where there is no spoon. Instead, ask yourself, "How Can You Eat Your Pudding Without A Spoon!" (stick it in the freezer)
     
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