What is your opinion on Vladimir Putin?

Discussion in 'Politics' started by midgardsun, Jul 2, 2011.

  1. Irminsul

    Irminsul Valkyrie

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    what's funny about that is once i saw the error, i didn't bother reading any of it, i was like fuck this shit, he dunno what he's talking about. :D
     
  2. Dejavu~

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  3. Meliai

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    I took it to mean she was referring to negative propaganda as well.

    In America, particularly since we became two opposing forces in syria, I dont know that our press always presents a clear image of Putin.

    So for the most part I have not formed much of an opinion on him, but he does strike me as the type of leader who relies on fear and intimidation to lead. . Obviously a lot of people respond very well to this type of leadership, I am not one of them. So I think even if a lot of what I hear os not true, that he jails or kills journalists and opponents, I would still not be a huge fan.
     
  4. Moonglow181

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    Oh, Deja Vu, you smart, sweet ape....lol...jk.....How do I love thee...let me count the ways....:)
     
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  5. YouFreeMe

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    You always manage to voice things I am feeling very articulately. You have a talent for writing!

    But yes, this.
     
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  6. MorphGirl

    MorphGirl Banned

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    I agree, he strikes me as that too. He is rewriting Russian history and that in itself is scary. He has been changing it in a way that paints stalin as a great leader and kind man who was for the people. I don't think he has pushed it too far yet, but he might. He promotes religion and the Core belief of the majority. Is this a bad thing? Lenin did the opposite.

    http://www.nbcnews.com/news/other/vladimir-putin-rewriting-russias-history-books-f2D11669160

    there is a really good book called the master and margarita. It is a Russian book that has been translated. Get the 1995 versiontranslated by by bergin and O'Connor. This book was not published until 1967 but was written between 1928 1940. I do wonder if this book is available in Russia today? Great novel. I believe it was published after the writers death. Mikhail bulgakov. He was afraid to publish it and was afraid he would die, just disappear if he did. It is a political satire, difficult read but really good. The devil comes to visit, kind of a mystery man and people just disappear when this one man appears, he takes on different looks but he is always there, watching and listening. One of my favourite books.

    I see strong similarities happening in Canada.

    Trudeau, the liberal party in Canada has an anti Christian campaign going on. This is something that Lenin did. Took away peoples faith. There are many people here who are afraid to speak out ... really weird vibe that is growing here, which is against English Canadians.

    Keep in mind our banks are government owned. BMO is bank of Montreal which is where the trudeau family put all their eggs into. Quebec. Banks are refusing to accredit universities with a law school because it is a Christian university. Demanding that the law school of Ontario deny them this and the government approves it. This is something Lenin did. Being anti Christian is ok. Approved of and rewarded.

    http://www.canadiantimes.ca/ct2/index.php/columnists/dr-mcvety/1098-why-does-bmo-hate-christians

    http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/christian-leaders-say-faith-under-attack-in-canada-by-governments-regulators-1.3008916

    This is a great article. http://ottawacitizen.com/news/national/religious-freedom-anti-religious-bigotry

    Our government is truly embracing a faith that belongs to 3.2 percent of the population and tearing down the majority faith of the population. Just like Lenin did. As well as denying a core people and their history. There are a large number of silent Canadians, who are not considered minority that are afraid to speak. English speaking Canadians who can only call this their home Are denied. It is like someone wants to see civil wars break out all over.

    Lenin and stalin were buddies, and putin admires stalin greatly. I think that is where the worry comes in ... but maybe putin will surprise us. Hoping for the best seems to be all I have left. I see so many similarities happening here in Canada that I equate to Lenin and stalin... and it is just the beginning.

    Putin I do not trust, but then again all governments want power... people want to feel powerful ... to do that they seem to think this involves crushing another. People who want power I generally stay clear of it and why I don't work well with a "boss." Power I do not trust.

    Religion is the opiate of the people. - karl Marx
     
  7. Piney

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    As far as the Pussy Riot protest in the church goes it was to protest the chummy relationship that the Russian Orthodox Church has with the Russian government.

    The protesters expresses that The Church should be a moral check against the government in an informal balance of power. Not just another boot licking apparatus of the state
     
  8. tumbling.dice

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    Putin 'gay clown memes' are now illegal in Russia.

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  9. Scratched

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    :devil: Satan in a V-neck
     
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  10. morrow

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    Be scared dice, be very scared!

    Whhhooooohhhaaaahhhhoooowaaaaa
     
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  11. Scratched

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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGNNqAc1s4Y Russia's version of this guy (must be the make-up)
     
  12. Asmodean

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    Can't wait until he's gone.
     
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  14. Piaf

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    the greatest leader of our time
    a really swell guy
     
  15. Asmodean

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    He's great like Erdogan.
     
  16. Piaf

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    He's greater.

    Tsar>Sultan
     
  17. Vanilla Gorilla

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    You just know his successor is going to be worse
     
  18. Asmodean

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    You know his succesor? Please enlighten me :p

    It's the same for Russia as for a country like Turkey: as long as the people trust their government mainly because of the 'strong leader' it is a great reality check to see past that leader. Seems to me supporters of Putin and Erdogan just hope those leaders can live eternally :p Quite hopeless.
    Such faulty leaders should die soon (by unmistakenly natural causes, don't get me wrong here!), so the whole country can move on. Yeps, that's what I hope for. I too understand of course that the next leader(s) can be even worse but no its not a given.

    Nope, that's just how east europeans (like to) perceive it
     
  19. BlackBillBlake

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    Probably Putin will be there for some time to come. I agree with your point about strong leaders, and really what amounts to a cult of personality. The Russians had it before under Stalin. The Turks too under Ataturk, although he was probably more progressive in his day than Erdogan. Both previously had dynasties that ensured their own succession. But a dictator? Hard for a dictator to groom a successor, as they will then be constantly looking over their shoulder to see if he's decided the time has come......

    With Putin though, I think you may be right and it's only when he's dead and gone that a new leader can emerge. Political opposition in Russia seems to get rapidly crushed.

    Both Turk and Russian have posed a threat to Eastern Europe in the past.
     
  20. Crystal_Nocked

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    I've always liked Putey Pute--as Dubyah used to call him. He seems like "a man's man" and I admire his resolve to return his Nation to Greatness once again.

    I also don't think he poses much of a threat to us here in the US. For one, as a history junkie and as somebody whose father is retired NSA, I know that our own government greatly embellished the potential threat the USSR posed during the Cold War. We were fare more aggressive than they were. We did things to them that, had the shoe been on the other foot and the Soviets tried that with us, we would have considered them tantamount to acts of war.

    I never understood why we and Russia cannot be closer allies, especially now that the USSR has been dissolved for over 20 years. I hope we do become strong allies, and feel this would be a mutually beneficial arrangement.

    Cheers.
     

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