What is your philosophy on reality?

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  1. RELAYER

    RELAYER mādhyamaka

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    Gods gift to our eyes
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  2. neim

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    forget the acid! who doesn't love a clean kitchen!

    oh god i think i'm crying... it's so clean.. so beautiful... :sigh:
     
  3. DeepMotherFucker

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    You know what my opinion on reality is, well i dont have one, because idk, no one knows, hence why religions bother me, the only religion we need is to live our lives.
     
  4. neim

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    that's some DeepMotherFucker shit right there
     
  5. y Epitaph x

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    i'm knee deep in reality right now, and i don't think i like it that much. it's very intense.
    just today at school some mother fucker was being SUCH a **** today. he wouldn't stop laughing at what seemed like nothing.
     
  6. introspectre

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    Objects are temporal and illusionary, is-ness is the ultimate truth of reality! There is no past, no future, only this moment, eternally.
     
  7. Mr.Writer

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    What is the universe? You

    What is the Self? The universe

    this is difficult to understand in our world because everything around us is built and operates on the premise that this fundamental truth is false.

    resist such programming

    but also forgive it

    for it is simply you, giving yourself a hard time ;)
     
  8. lou_reed

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    Damn that is a clean kitchen.


    Mr writer let me ask you this isn't every fundamental truth you believe in, YOUR own truth? If so wouldn't it be "true" that this truth is based on your own moral judgments? And wouldn't it therefore cease to be a universal truth? Wouldn't it by virtue of being "true" also be "false"?
    Having said that it has recently come to my attention that we are both creature and creator due to our ability to evaluate values.
     
  9. Mr.Writer

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    Yes, and yours, and yours, and yours, and . . . ;)

    (allright i'll play your western philsophy game)

    I would never say that, it's not a truth I've come to after debating moral philosophy; it's a truth I directly experienced with sense data, in the same way that the truth of "fire is hot" is not about "my morals".

    The opposite of a great truth is also a great truth

    -Neils Bohr

    we are both traveller and landscape, asking ourselves both "what am I" (traveller) and "what is this?" (landscape). We think they are 2 different things.
     
  10. Today

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    Reality... It is the life we live. Where we live, the experiences we've lived, The energy we have recieved and the energy we have given off. Reality is just an altered form of energy striking us in different ways. For everything we precieve is some form of energy our brain is translating to itself, to us, to our spirit. Life is constantly in motion for i do not know one thing that is not in motion but the dead. Planets, stars, microbes, animals, the sky, radiation, sound waves, light waves.... it is all moving and thus creating or using energy. Reality is anything we make it out to be. For a man born into riches and never wants but never loves, perhaps reality is having everything but what he truly desires (love). Also a man born with nothing but love of the people around him, perhaps reality is having everything but what he truly desires (riches). Who knows.

    -2cents
     
  11. mati

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    I Deny the Externality of Relations
     
  12. lou_reed

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    But if it is your own truth how can it be fundamental to anyone except you(and others who have experienced it directly). And if the opposite of a great truth is also a great truth aren't you denying one great truth by acknowledging another?
     
  13. Asmodean

    Asmodean Slo motion rider

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    I love how you put that in to words. :cheers2:
     
  14. Mr.Writer

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    You think there is something different between the truths I experience and the truths you experience? We may interpret them differently and give them different names, but those are just *details*, those are just the philosophizing games we play as western intelligent people.

    The raw, unfiltered reality cannot be censored.

    No, because they are both true.

    If X is true, and Y is true, and I say "X is true", have I said "Y is not true"?

    No.

    Y is also true.

    It is also true that each person is a universe unto himself and each person has a wholly unique view, representation, and construction of reality in their minds. This is truth.

    I have always known this second truth, and most people do. It's what we are taught, what we learn. However, I have only recently discovered that first truth i spoke of, and so it is much more interesting to me, and it gives me a much more useful model of reality to work with, with real tangible benefits to my everyday life and interactions with people.

    There are so many truths, that it really comes down to just choosing some and living by those. What mechanism chooses truths? the same mechanism that is truthing choose. :hat:
     
  15. RELAYER

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    Reality is perception. Perception is fluid and intangible. Reality is therefor, also fluid and intangible. There are no truths because we havent even the right questions.
     
  16. lou_reed

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    There is no difference between the knowledge that presents itself to you or me. Once we interpret this knowledge we turn it into a truth. However there is a difference between your truths and mine because mine are based on my prejudices and yours are based on your prejudices. So why not recognize untruth as a condition of life?
    If X is defined as the opposite of Y and you choose to believe in X then you also choose to not believe in Y. And if both are also great truths, your belief is itself untruth.
    To say that your truth is a fundamental truth is to say that you have the ability to maintain an objective perspective.
    I am happy that you discovered this truth and that you are benefiting from it. But as you just said above there are many truths and it does come down to choosing some and living by them. Therefore your truths aren't better or any more fundamental than somebody else's.
     
  17. Mr.Writer

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    you're not understanding, it's ok.

    one day you'll go "OHHH thats what he meant"

    or i can be wrong, if you want :)
     
  18. lou_reed

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    Hahah you can do better than that. But sure, im open to the idea that i could feel that way some day. I used to believe in universal truths but that's changed, for now atleast.
    Likewise i hope that you someday see what i was talking about. And as I see it neither of us is wrong nor right. Anyway good talking to you man.
     
  19. kil0

    kil0 The Rebel

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    I'll give you a second to think about that before PsyGay starts accusing me of immature posts.
     
  20. Hippified_RCer

    Hippified_RCer P.L.U.R.

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    Reality is just a refuge for people who can't handle drugs.
    -Robin Williams
     

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