What we are eating.

Really? I guess it depends on what you mean by eating healthy. If you mean eating nothing but chicken, or cabbage, then that can be counterproductive

 

THis guy thinks that only raw meat is good for you ahaha seriously he does.

 

Raw meat?? Ahhh

 

I know that raw organic eggs are fine. I've been mixing them into my whey protein for months with no adverse effects. The problem seems to be with commercial eggs because the chickens are more likely to be unhealthy and lay infected eggs. I'm not sure how safe animal meat, even organic meat is though.

 

The unhealthy manifestations we experience from improper diet these days has to do more than with anything else, food production, not the consumption of food.
Animals living in unnaturally crowded conditions foster disease. Human beings living in close quarters with domestic live stocks have allowed for the development of novel diseases in human beings. As Jarred Diamond would suggest, native American peoples succumbed to European agricultural practice before a bullet had been fired or a sword drawn.

 

Thats right, I eat the entire animal raw. Tongue, eyes, brain, fat, the organs, meat, glands.. YOU have nothing to say about this because it is something that you have never experienced. It is the healthiest diet; the true human diet. You will realize things you thought were normal (feeling full, farting, plaque on your teeth) are actually warning signs that you're ignoring.

 

What about blueberries i thought the more the better with that.

 

Its not about what you eat, so much as what you DON'T eat.

 

No that's not true at all. Clearly avoiding things like sugar, trans fat, toxins, etc is important, as they lead to illness in their own right. But to say that it doesn't matter what you eat as long as you avoid certain things is terribly reductionist and a losing philosophy. The philosophy that I should only eat the healthiest things that are going to supply me with the nutrients, antioxidants, enzymes, etc to function optimally and build my body up is better than "these are the things that I shouldn't eat". My example is that a person could have a diet free of all commonly known "junk" could still be deficient in nutrients, most notably omega 3 fatty acids which can only be obtained in sufficient amounts from a few seeds and fish.

Optimal nutrition, feeding your body to become as healthy and powerful as it possibly can, taking every single eating opportunity to give it what it needs to thrive and become immune to anything it faces is the best way to eat. Not eating junk is the logical consequence. The converse approach offers paltry benefit in comparison.

Not to mention every day our bodies are the least bit deficient in nutrients, antioxidants, enzymes and everything else they need, we shrivel and die more quickly than otherwise. So if living extremely healthfully and vitally for a very long time is important to someone, they should be very concerned with the foods that they need to eat.

 

If that gets your goat take a look at the introduction of "prebiotics" onto the market. They are starting to simply dosing animal populations on mass quantities regardless of health.

Definitely find out if the farm breeds there own chickens because should the new chickens come from a commercial distributer you may run into the very same salmonella bacteria you are trying to avoid.

And on the sugar thing, just remember sugar is a perfectly fine thing to eat but eating cupfuls a day(ie that candy bar and can of soda for breakfast) is horrible on you body. Stick to natural sugars like throwing raisins in your cereal instead of a heaping spoonful of the white stuff.

 

Indeed. Too many carbohydrates of any kind will cause high insulin levels and insulin resistance which have numerous negative effects on health. Clearly nobody should be eating simple sugars, period, and I believe that most people would be much healthier reducing their intake of bread and cereal grains, as most people consume way too much of those and it contributes to high insulin levels and inflammation.The key is to spread moderate amounts of slow metabolizing carbohydrates out throughout the day and get exercise throughout the day, not just all condensed in one session.

 

You do seem to have a good handle on the subject. The biggest question is how to make the general public WANT to eat healthier, after that was achieved I'm pretty sure america as a whole would be a lot happier.

If only we could talk the government into subsidizing organic local vegetables, fruits, and meat to the point it was cheaper than fast food, I know I would start eating in more.

 

Uhh, America just might be a lost cause. I live in Canada and I notice more and more focus on healthy lifestyles. The government is promoting it more than because we have national health care and a bunch of fat, sickos would bankrupt the system. It's still nowhere near good enough. Subsidies on organic food, or even just farming incentives to grow better inorganic produce and raise healthier animals would be awesome but I think that education is the way to go.

I think the main idea in converting someone is to appeal to a person's values in the present, as the promises of chronic diseases and disorders in one's 50s and an earlier death than otherwise isn't a very effective way to convert someone in their 20s and comes of as (although completely founded) appeal to fear. Women tend to be easier than men because a lot of women value beauty and healthy living is greatly associated with it. Sugar, bad fats, toxins, etc have a terrible effect on the skin and hair and highly acidic diets cause rapid aging while antioxidants, getting optimal nutrition, and exercise will slow the aging process and give the exterior a healthy vibrant glow. Not to mention the correct macronutrient ratios for one's metabolic type are an immense boon to the physique. Men trying to bulk up or be their best for athletics know the value of nutrition more than the average person, but few get into specifics of how to maximize the benefit from workouts. Hippie folk know the value of great nutrition, sunlight, sleep, meditation and exercise, as these things have a profound effect on serotonin production in the brain, creating a perpetual natural high and sustaining that positive, loving attitude. But in general most people are way to fargone to switch from their processed junk diets and don't fully comprehend the kind of positive changes to their health and life that good health practices beget, and if they do, many aren't willing to put in the extra effort.

I suppose being a glorious example and a willing educator is all one person can do. Government COULD be a massive force for change, so activism will help.

 

You can't just blame Americans for being "stupid"... it's not that simple.

We could all grow our own organic food, but that's too hard. We want a massive intensive society without any of the drawbacks, and this simply isn't possible.

FreshDacre, do you grow your own food? How long ago did you find out about the truths of the world, and how long did it take you to change your lifestyle? How many mouths do you have to find?

People's ignorance (not always their fault) has a lot to do with it. 2 heads of broccoli may look exactly the same but have totally different nutritional contents. And unless you were born in the generation of Youtube the chances of you collecting all of the information to make an informed decision is hard to get. There's a billion other factors adding to the fact why people dont' make change (not saying that it excuses them from not making it a goal), but u wish a horrible death on these people?

 

I started becoming more aware mabey 2 mabey 3 years ago. Once I realized I switched my choices of where to get food by 80% and a year later went up to 95% now its at 99.5% organic. I have always wanted to grow my own food, and i know people who do and I eat the food they grow. I know I will be doing alot of food growing in my life.

 

That's great to hear man. It's great you took charge of your life, I wish more people actually did what's good for them. I personally know a lot of people can't afford organic, so I try to look at every case as situational.

Unfortunately tho I fear that most people are too stupid and stubborn to change. And unfortunately time goes on the stupid people out-multiply the smart ones.

 

Yeah i'm glad i got some recognition for that thanks. Its just second nature to me now, I just think about the things i eat purely for benefits, and realize that i can't have "poison" meant to damage living things on my food. Its completely counterproductive. It does bother me that I didn't even know/care about the importance of organic for the majority of my life so i have already been poisoned
When I am a dad I will give my kid only organic foods hopefully he'll be as thankful as i would be. My dad is a very smart person, but he is a different kind of smart that I am. He is smart with "math" and "computer programming" I'm smart with being body concoius. He doesn't care about organic stuff at all, he doesn't care about fluoride in toothpaste, and doesn't care about triclosan in soap. I try to warn people who I love but like you said Tsurugi they are ignorant.

 

Bah, organic food is so expensive, growing is a good idea. The only organic things I buy are my animal products, greens powder, seeds and a few randoms like tea and almond milk. Everything else is regular grocery store produce that I use a solution on to remove pesticides from. The regular produce seems pretty good though; not amazing but somebody eating it exclusively could still live healthfully. I would kind of expect Canadian farming to be on average better quality than American.

 

You can't really blame people for being ignorant to the facts. But you can when they know the facts and they refuse to change. Then the ignorance turns to foolishness.

Even while going to college I found a way to eat healthy (compared to SAD). Get a beef tenderloin for $5/lb, rice for 30c, and broccoli for $1 / 2 heads. Break it down to meal sized portions, wrap and freeze/refrigerate. Turn on rice steamer, microwave steam broccoli for 2 minutes, and sear filet mignon for 10 minutes. Gourmet meal for about $4, takes 10 minutes to cook, and less costly than a value meal at McDonalds.

No matter what we do, we need to put forethought into it. And unfortunately I think lack of planning.... of thinking...... evaluating....... is why we eat the way we do.

 

Yeah exactly. I don't advocate that people get as obsessive about it as Dacre and I, at least right away. People just need to get the fuck away from processed junk and eat real food. Cost isn't a plausible excuse and time isn't either considering what they're giving up.

I got my post-exercise meal idea from Dr. Mercola (www.***********). 1.5 scoop of whey, 2 raw, organic eggs, 2 tbs of flaxseed, almond milk, stevia and organic vanilla extract. Costs me about $3 and tastes great.