Whats very wrong with all Religion?

Discussion in 'Philosophy and Religion' started by Brother_Amos, Jan 20, 2008.

  1. Brother_Amos

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    After all the number of people who have kept god's commandments has diminished considerably over the last 600 years, might as well be on the winning side! Where the hell did I leave my black kaftan!

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  2. xexon

    xexon Destroyer Of Worlds

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    There is no "side".

    As long as you see one, you'll not know God.


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  3. stev90

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    That is blind faith.

    I take it, you also believe in Santa Claus, leprechauns, bigfoot, little fairies and the cookie monster.
    Cool.
     
  4. MellowMike

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    Hi Brother Amos.

    There is an answer to this question, one that is not taught in most churches. To learn the truth, you must study what God actually told us about creation of man in the Bible. If you truly seek knowledge, than please check out this in-depth Bible study.

    http://www.biblestudysite.com/creation.htm

    God certainly doesn't condone incest; it's satans lies that perpetrate this disinformation. The plan to subvert Gods true word is working pretty well unfortunately.
     
  5. Brother_Amos

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    You see it that way, just as I see it blind to not consider the possibility that there is something bigger out there.

    I'm happy to admit that no one can be certain until we die and found out for ourselves. But yet there are so many people who are still so sure that they are the only ones here and will not admit that we cannot know for sure.
     
  7. themnax

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    what is wrong is that narrowness of perception in a much wider universe then we can ever begin to realize.

    its a way of lying to ourselves. not about what can be, but that we think we know what can and can't.

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  8. Brother_Amos

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    If heaven is full of all the arseholes that have been running this place for the last 600 years I would rather burn in hell.

    You say its not about sides, but lucifer sat on gods left, he argued about the creation of man, which is why he was cast down!
     
  9. Brother_Amos

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    Of course terrorists will be in heaven, they all seem to think their going their as well, what a fucking party, Jeffery Dalmer, Charles Manson, you did naughty things but hey I forgive you and embrace you with open arms.. Bollocks! Hey their lucifier my brother, have you got room for one more!

    You can tempt me with loads of money, nude girls and a porsche I really wont mind.

    Have a read through Liber Logaeth Satan's Bible and while your at it have a read through the Necronomicon, if its a sin to so much as read them, well I know who gets my vote!

    A lake of fire, how do we know its a lake of fire, oh because the bible tells us so!
     
  10. Brother_Amos

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    This is virtually identical to the Jewish tradition of the Nephilim (the giants of Genesis 6.2 - 6.5). The word literally means "the Fallen Ones" and is derived from the Hebrew verb root naphal, to fall. The story in Genesis is only a fragment of a larger tradition, another piece of which can be found in the apocryphal Book of Enoch. According to this source, a group of angels sent to watch over the Earth saw the daughters of men and lusted after them. Unwilling to act individually, they swore an oath and bound themselves together, and two hundred of these "Watchers" descended to earth and took themselves wives. Their wives bore giant offspring. The giants turned against nature and began to "sin against birds and beasts and reptiles and fish, and to devour one another's flesh, and drink the blood". The fallen angels taught how to make weapons of war, and jewellery, and cosmetics, and enchantments, and astrology, and other secrets.

    These separate legends are elaborated in later Jewish sources such as the Talmud, which make it clear that Enoch and Genesis refer to the same tradition. The great flood of Genesis was a direct response to the evil caused by humankind's commerce with fallen angels. The fallen angels were cast out and bound:

    "And I proceeded to where things were chaotic. And I saw something horrible: I saw neither a heaven above nor a firmly founded earth, but a place chaotic and horrible. And there I saw seven stars of the heaven bound together in it, like great mountains, and burning with fire. Then I said: 'For what sin have they been bound, and on what account have they been cast in hither?' Then said Uriel, one of the holy angels who was with me, and was chief over them and said: 'Enoch, why dost thou ask, and why art thou eager for the truth? These are the number of the stars of heaven which have transgressed the commandment of the Lord, and are bound here till ten thousand years, the time entailed by their sins, are consummated.'"
     
  11. Brother_Amos

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    It is abundantly clear that Alhazred elaborated upon existing traditions of the "Old Ones", and he did not invent these traditions. According to Alhazred, the Old Ones were beings from "beyond the spheres", presumably the spheres of the planets, and in the cosmography of that period this would imply the region of the fixed stars or beyond. They were superhuman and extrahuman. They mated with humans and begat monstrous offspring. They passed forbidden knowledge to humankind. They were forever seeking a channel into our plane of existence.

    Arab traditions hold that the Jinn or Djinn were a race of superhuman beings which existed before the creation of humankind. The Djinn were created from fire. Some traditions make them a lesser race than human beings, but folk-tales invariably endowed them with unlimited magical powers, and the Djinn survive to this day as the genies of the Arabian Nights and Disney's Aladdin. Islam has subordinated the Djinn to the Koran, and like elves and fairies they have lost their dark and extremely sinister qualities with the passage of time. In Alhazred's time the older and darker traditions of the Djinn were still current, and Arab magicians ("muqarribun") would attempt to gain forbidden knowledge and power through commerce with the Djinn.

    "And why? It repenteth me that I have made Man."

    This is identical to the sentiment of Genesis 6.6 where it states "And it repented the Lord that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart". This verse immediately follows the verses which describe the evil done by the Nephilim and the resulting sinfulness of the world, and it is followed by God's decision to wipe out all the life on earth with a great flood. Aleister Crowley, using his immense knowledge of the Bible, recognized the Call of the Thirty Aethyrs for what it was: God's curse on the Nephilim and the evil they had caused. It was this curse which cast them out of the earth and consigned them to the Abyss.
     
  12. Brother_Amos

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    So we're all going to burn in a lake of fire because Lucifer got a stiffy.. Pretty Funny!

    God "Lucifer my son how art thou, wait what is that in your pants?"

    Lucifer "Nothing father just a bit of a... (mumble)

    God "What is it, I command you to speak!"

    Lucifer "A lob on, ok, I've got a hard on, you got a problem with that?"

    By all accounts he did indeed have a problem with it!
     
  13. Brother_Amos

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    I would submit that if an angel is not above lust, then neither is a god, lusting at his own heart for his own creation.

    We where cursed the moment we bit in the forbidden apple, the fruit of knowledge right, why would god want us to live without knowledge of something?

    I agree their will indeed be a second coming, but its not the one the bible is telling us about.

    Idiots with no grasp of science would fall on their knees and worship a lightbulb, if they'd never seen one before!

    http://allsp.com/l.php?id=e150

    People need to accept their is no great and glorious kingdom of heaven, except the one you see when you look up at the night sky.
     
  14. Brother_Amos

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    I for one know that the islamic's refuse to even believe their is such a thing as original sin, so theirs something we can all rub in their face, I bet the idea that they've been fucking each other would be pretty abhorrent to them. Serves them right for taking bits of other faiths and sticking it into their own holy book.
     
  15. Bl4ck3n3D

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    Why wait till you die?

    Why not try and seek out knowledge and the truth now, with this life?
     
  16. stev90

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    If there is no "side", then why did you have to offer an explanation on the matter, which I assume constitutes your viewpoint, or rather, your side of the story.

    Also, if you say, that "as long as you see one, you'll not know God", how do you explain those who preach and practice religion, the clergy, the faithful, the religious folks, the devotees, etc. does that mean, these people do not know God?
     
  17. xexon

    xexon Destroyer Of Worlds

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    As most people only know one side, I have to do as the Romans do.

    In this case, I speak the native tongue enough to transfer a message that there is something more. If I can present options to people, then they can make intelligent choices about their fate other than running the maze that was built for them.

    As for the practicing clergy and faithful devotees. When does the practicing stop? When is faith no longer needed? When is maturity reached? When does the kingdom open?

    Why not now?

    Religions can help mold you for the journey ahead, but they have a hard time letting you fly off when you're ready to leave the nest. You've got to know when to jump. Quite frankly, the masses are nowhere near that level yet.

    But humanity as a whole is maturing. Expect to the the number of jumpers rise in the years ahead.

    To know God, has nothing to do with any religion. It's your birthright. And you'll get it when you're old enough as a soul.



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  18. Moon_Beam

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    Ok you do that! I know in my heart that God is real, but I will only meet Him when I die. Isn't that the point of faith?

    I know the truth, I know what I believe, I was saying that to people who are quick to judge without even thinking it may be true.
     
  19. FreakerSoup

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    So atheists can't know but you can know? I don't think it works like that.

    Faith is only what you want it to be. You want there to be a god and a heaven, so you tell yourself and everyone else that this is the case. Don't get me wrong, I would be overjoyed if this were to be true, I just am not able to talk myself into it.
     
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    I believe - that is what religion is!!

    But like I said I can only be absolutely certain when I die, that is what I am saying. People can believe what they like, but either way nothing can be proved right now. Why is that so hard to understand?
     

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