What's wrong with today's youth?

Discussion in 'Old Hippies' started by Rev Van, Dec 30, 2006.

  1. snowsurf

    snowsurf Visitor

    This is the end my only freind the end. Our corporate masters have filled our lives and heads with so much crap we have lost touch with our personal connections and humanity. I spent some time with a native culture in S.A. when I told them I worked 40 hrs a week they were shocked and asked me when do I spend time with my family. They spend about 2 hours a day working on necessary needs such as fish nets or shelter. They fish 1 or 2 days a week now to make $$ as the europeans and americans have informed them that they are poor and need to buy stuff and have cars. They are now working more and feel like they have less. They had it all before decadence came to town. We could all do well to spend some time doing what we consider nothing,spending time with each other without gadgets face to face Peace
     
  2. aguest

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    OH, dear me! Thanks for posting this. Yea, I spend A LOT OF TIME FOR WHAT I CONSIDER NOTHING, because what they call "business" or "work" makes me feel like a squizzed lemon. So, what they call "GREEN" business here, makes a lot of sense. But unfortunately, I have no will left in me to organize and run ANY business; so currently I work part-time for a foreign businessman, who thinks he cannot do without me, he-he. Thanks to God for that!!

    And regarding the need to spend more time with the family... That is 200% true. All the teens problems, which later become adult problems, start right there -- in our inability to spend enough time with those we love. This stupid idea, that our children need THINGS!! All they need IS LOVE, right? In that case they will have no envy for the "cool gadgets" other boys and girls have, which are actually substitutes for the real time love their parents failed to provide. THen again, if we could teach our children how to find happiness and satisfaction in what THEY DO WITH THEIR OWN HANDS or brains, then there would be no problem for them to feel happy without the damn gadgets. Neither do WE need all the junk we spend the money for...

    So maybe this is wrong with the youth -- they don't receive from the parents ALL that is due. Not enough emotional communication, but also not enough spiritual instruction, not enough of moral standards they expect parents to teach them. What moral standards am I talking about, when the parents are trying to teach them, that there are NO moral standards??? Good instruction for the vulnerable young human creatures before entering a big corrupt and dangerous world... That's what's wrong with the youth.
     
  3. animalsASleaders

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    I myself try and want to get out there and spread the "word". I've tried getting protests together infront of the local recruiting offices, but in the end about five people turn out. Sure, we still protest, but we need more, we can't do it alone (I'm 23). Maybe if we would have taken a few ideas from the counterculture of the late 60's-70s, we wouldn't be in such a hole we are in as a country now. A lot of younger people (myself, somewhat included) waste SO much time on worthless stuff. Sure, computers and videogames are pretty cool, but I just don't understand why a lot of younger people I know are so addicted to the phone, IM's, Txts. Its like, well we need something to remind us whats REALLY important in life. God forbid (we young people) take a look around us at what is happening, the lives that are being destroyed everyday and yet, we let it happen, and no one cares other then a select few.

    But, I have to add something, there is a new counter culture/cultural revolution seeding, but I don't feel like its going to be a peaceful one at all...

    peace & love guys
     
  4. Shale

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    This very old thread was bumped up to my attention. There are some young ppl who do what we did, but as stated we aren't a slave army like we were in Nam. Without young men being forced to fight there is not the mass impetus to protest.

    So, a few of us gather but you need thousands not hundreds to affect change.

    I was out in March of '03 protesting our imminent involvement in Iraq. There were young ppl and old together here in Miami, just as the rest of the country but to no avail. Mad king George did what he wanted anyway.

    I am glad to say that I inadvertently made the paper that day - only because I was in the crowd behind the busty young woman that the fotog was going for. Look above her ample left breast.

    [​IMG]
     
  5. pushit

    pushit One jive Motha Fucka

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    Because of Nixon and Bush and Bush Jr. and years of horrible influence.
     
  6. animalsASleaders

    animalsASleaders Member

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    yea, it's hard to get people to come out, to many distractions I guess =\.
     
  7. PAX-MAN

    PAX-MAN Just A Old Hippy

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    To quote the Dalai Lama- this generation is full of pacifist by-standers who only want to sit there and take in what is going on. If they do choose a side they have no desire to fight [non-violent] for what they believe is right.

    PAX
     
  8. 52~unknown~52

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    i really have no clue whats wrong with kids these days.... i know im one myself but really the majoraty of them are all the same with their rap music and baggy pants and how they never brush thier teeth ewww.... haha now i know how it's like to be old and complaining lol :D
     
  9. PAX-MAN

    PAX-MAN Just A Old Hippy

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    I was surfing the net last nite, it's too bad I didn't bookmark the site. The info I got was really sad. They did a study of grade six students: the topic was 'what they wanted to do with their lives'. I couldn't believe it but 65% of the kids surveyed wanted to be famous. Which was sad- but what was even sadder, was that only 10% of those students who wanted to be famous actually knew what they could be famous for. .......and these are the kids that will be pushing me around in my wheelchair when I get old...........and all they are thinking is "I wish I could be Paris Hilton"....

    PAX
     
  10. SunLion

    SunLion Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    Personally, I think young people today are the best generation ever produced by this country. I'm speaking more of the 20-25 year old age range. They might not be as radical as the '60s generation, but they're orders of magnitude better informed about the issues (only because you can gather more good useful information in a few hours on the Internet today than you could gather in a month doing full-time research in the '60s).

    Not to "toot my own horn" or anything, but when I ask my own kids (both in their early 20s) what most afflicted their generation, they place a HUGE amount of the blame on today's parents. HMy son said that among his friends, most had absentee dads, and most of the few that were present were hardcore drug addicts, alcoholics, or seriously mentally unstable and unpredictable. Both my kids have thanked me countless times just for being home, caring, looking after their mother, and staying mostly sane. In any case, they say that very few kids today grow up in a home where they see a loving relationship, a trivially small number, and that necessarily is an indicator of real problems.
     
  11. wild-flowers

    wild-flowers forever arbitrary

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    I think this is an easy way to do nothing. Argue that any effort is redundant.
    It doesn't matter if the candidates running get to sign the papers we ultimately out number them. United we can defeat the odds, hippies protested the vietnam war and resolved it within 4 years. We take the streets, we get on the news. Then people talk, soon the word is out. People are responding, thinking for themselves. Joining in. A new revolution. The internet in some odd way has brought us communication to each other but at the same time has made us socially retarted in person. We need someone to lead the way, who knows the way. Then many will follow.
     
  12. alyssalovestheworld

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    Whats wrong with the youth today is that we think we can't do anything about it. And that we're all by ourselves and no one has the same views on such things. We're not all together for any causes really these days and that
    s why you couldve posted that in 2006 and STILL now in 2010 this war is still happening and not enough is happening the way it was back in the day. YOU OLD FARTS DO NEED TO TEACH US!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
  13. Molly's Alarm Clock

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    We're constantly being treated like little children who don't know anything about the world. Seniority rules in the 'conventional' world.

    And the stereotypical teenager doesn't really give a crap about the war. I know that over half my grade don't even know that we're in a war, or what it's about. (I'm not even sure what it's about, honestly.) Unfortunately, the stereotypical teenager is the one usually portrayed in media, constantly texting, wearing only the coolest clothes, reading nothing, etc, etc.. And so that's what all teenagers are viewed as, leading to the above.

    It's a vicious cycle, one that the majority today's youth doesn't even realize.
     
  14. Nikalaus

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    The problem with today's youth?

    Well history repeats itself ... but this time around its:

    Cellphones, IM, and next month's dose of celebrity media drama.

    tisk tisk tisk.

    What have we become?
     
  15. Asmodean

    Asmodean Slo motion rider

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    Nothing special, we're just as human as a few thousands years ago.
     
  16. HippyJoel93

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    Man I would do anything to stop the war. Im trying to get support over here but where do I start?
     
  17. Logan 5

    Logan 5 Confessed gynephile Lifetime Supporter

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    The problem with kids is the parents. They keep looking for easier ways to raise their kids, but they fail to realize that the ever-changing society is not there to decide for the parents. Do kids need iPods? maybe. Computers? Fair chance. But they need the love and attention that all youth require. People play with a puppy or kitten, right? Because, you see, it needs love and attention. But when people show an animal more love and attention than their own kids? Come on man. That's not cool. Should be the opposite.
     
  18. HippyJoel93

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    Right on Logan, That goes on here man.
     
  19. junglejack

    junglejack aiko aiko

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    for the most part- -apathy.- -
    Maybe we arent not talking about the people on this board, but the younger group out in the real world just dont really care- - they are letting the chips fall where they may, doing nothing to help change the course for the better- - its soppossed to be a big group effort, the youger group seems too fragmented in thier beliefs and agendas
     
  20. Reverand JC

    Reverand JC Willy Fuckin' Wonka

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    Here's what happened. When a large group of Baby Boomers when from Hippie to Yuppie and decided "Greed is Good," they left their kids with this crippling sense of entitlement. If you asked the kids to grow their own food in a garden their response would be "Why we have Jose to do that for us."

    And as much as I love the computer it has contributed to a phenomena I refer to as "Social Retardation through modern technology." Alot of computer savvy people get so wrapped up on the interweb that they become myopic to the point where the computer is the real world to them and they have a hard time interacting with other humans on a one to one face to face level. In other words "If it ain't on the computer screen and I'm not interacting with it on that level than it doesn't effect me."

    If the shooting on the screen isn't being controlled by their space bar it isn't real and if they get shot they still have 4 more lives. After being brought up on GI JOE and Rambo where the violence is cartoony (Come on Stalone holding and shooting an M60 with one hand) war is entertainment. During the first Gulf war when they were showing us footage from the nose guidance camera on a guided missle but the footage stopped after the bomb went off. For propaganda purposes it doesn't beehove the powers that be to show the actual destruction that goes with war.

    Another problem with war as I see it is that we are working on taking our soldiers out of harms way. With all due repect to anyone on here with Post Traumatic Stress Disorder I think that it does offer something positive to society as a whole. When kids see dad, or uncle Bob, or the neighbor kid ducking under cars every time there is a backfire because the war has fucked with their head they will remember it and not want to go through it themselves. I am glad that I am 35 and got to see the psychological aftermath of the Vietnam War. It is still happening after the conflicts in the Middle East but not to the same extent but it has been very well engineered to be less traumatic.

    Peace Out,
    Rev J
     

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