What's your favorite moment in history

interesting. it inspired me to further reading .thank you.the mission building it seems remains there....the presidio would be an interesting archeology study....most interesting though is the land and the people that inhabited it.

 

What's so great about a deadly raid that accomplished nothing but burning a town and stealing some mules? Here's Wikipedia's summary:

On 9 March 1916, General Villa ordered nearly 500 Mexican members of his revolutionary group to make a cross-border attack against Columbus, New Mexico. The raid was conducted because of the U.S. government's official recognition of the Carranza regime and for the loss of lives in battle due to defective bullets purchased from the United States. They attacked a detachment of the 13th Cavalry Regiment (United States), seizing 100 horses and mules, and setting part of the town on fire. 18 Americans and about 80 Villistas were killed.
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Would the dead and wounded of either side consider this to be a great event? I imagine it hurts like hell to get shot to death.

 

well geeze dirty dog,you're right.the funny part of it is i was thinking i should edit my post to make sure people don't mistake what i think of as favorite as compared to interesting for me.my intent wasn't to come across as a violent war monger or anything.for some reason though there are periods in history i find interesting.that i noted villa's forces killed innocent townspeople and destroyed property and the army never caught up with him does not mean i condone the actions.i think it has more to do with my interests of that era.it was a terrible time in history.war was on in europe and the u.s. was about to enter the fray.thanks for bringing that to my attention .i didn't want it to sound like i was happy.i think part of it i wanted to summerize the event and it didn't come through the right way.

 

Of all the natives of the southwest, I wish I could have been Kumeyaay.
They were said to be almost childlike in disposition, laughing and playing most of the time, when they weren't taking naps! So efficient were their hunting and gathering skills that they were left with much more free time than modern man, some anthropologists posit.

I think they had the original SoCal "Spicoli" 'tude...("All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz, and I'm fine.")

Of coarse, I would want to have been born way before the Spanish ever showed up!

ZW

 

That was true in general of hunter-gatherers, although we really should say "gatherer-hunters". Something like 70% of their calories came from the gathering side, which of course was mostly done by women.

 

Ha ha yeah I'm imagining a conversation between two Kumeyaay men who are supposed to be hunting...

"Dude, were supposed to be hunting"

"Yeah, I know... fuck it, I'm pretty sure the ol' lady's got a big pile of those roots by now.
let's just burn another bowl and take a nap. I think we already spooked the game anyway...(giggle)"

"Yea, Cool (more giggling)"


ZW

 

aw nothing it wasn't that funny.i was gonna ask if you think your wife was going to make any pies or cookies today.....what kind of snacks did people eat in those days?baking etc.....i've tasted some really good fried bread.

 

Shit man, anything sugary had to be pretty rare...
I imagine the only sweets they may have gotten were wild honey or maybe "Pitaya Dulce" from organ pipe cactus.

ZW

 

getting back to the use of the word great in historical terms.the great war etc...i want to learn from the past so i'll often try to put myself into the tough spots.feel what they felt best i can.i think it would be interesting to see what columbus,nm looks like today and to see where these terrible events happened.i take two history trips a year.summer i head north.in the fall i head south.columbus is pretty far for me though.there's other places closer i'd just as soon see.....and i was thinking of galveston ,tx. in 1900 the hurricane that came through.i've read it was worse than katrina.in 1900 how could they effectively communicate .by ships out in the gulf.but it just wasn't like todays standards.

 

Meanwhile, the women are saying ... "damn that ol' man ... rabbit again???"

 

Franz Ferdinand getting shot. I know it's not a good moment, but a dramatic one. Right now, anyway. Pearl Harbor may be a tie.

 

that was something.i've read alittle about it.photos.would the war still happen.i guess but still........somewhat related.in 1901 at the world's fair in buffalo,ny.president wm mckinley shot and killed.roosevelt becomes president for next 7 years.i've watched films of mckiley at the fair...one clip is filming the crowd outside waiting to see the president.when the shots go out you see the crowd trying to see what has happened inside the hall.films of the funeral also.the library of congress web site has lots of old film to warch.

 

He he, exactly


Seriously, I think some SW native women even today, get the shitty end of the stick all in the name of "tradition"
I remember this one account where this anthropologist saw a Hopi family walking down the road, sometime in the 1970's. The woman was carrying everything, child on her back, a large bag over her shoulder, and pulling a cart. The man (husband) was walking completely unencumbered. When asked, replied simply "It's traditionally women's work... "


You've come a long way, baby...?


ZW

 

i was reading about places in hawaii where people slid down hillsides on sleds.what they did was build a level course with rocks .packed sand on top of that and covered that with grass and leaves to make it slippery.the best preserved course and the largest is called the keauhou holua slide on the island of hawaii.

 

It's widely considered that Ferdinand's assassination triggered WWI. A cartoon I particularly like shows a newspaper dated 12 November 1918, with a headline --

ARCHDUKE FOUND ALIVE.

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That sounds like fun. I was out to the big island a couple years ago ... wish I'd known about this then

 

i read up some on the assasination of archduke ferdinand.the events of that day 95 years ago today.the timeline of events and so on.and the stories of the conspiracy to kill him.they were determined to kill him....i read up on the treaty of versailles.that's interesting also.i had read about those events long ago so it was good to refresh my memory.

 

in sports...i was watching a track and field meet on t.v. yesterday and i thought back to the 64 olympics and watching the close 10,000 meter race.i've read it's considered one of the biggest upsets in olympic history but the contestants themselves may not feel that way.

 

Idk. My favorite was when "Freedom of Religion" was written into the First Ammendment. My Least favorite was when i realized they should of written "Freedom FROM Religion".

 

Too bad they forgot to add "Freedom from whining."