What's your Point of View on this possible double standard?

Discussion in 'Free Love' started by Collideascope00s, May 14, 2009.

  1. MyMistress'sBitch

    MyMistress'sBitch Member

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    http://www.yeastinfectionadvisor.com/maleyeastinfection.html

    While you don't hear about it often, it is possible for men to get yeast infections, too. And, we also get UTI's and other irritations/infections that women may not think about. I've had a UTI, and it sucks. Unless you were referring to an actual vaginal bacterial infection, of which I would guess there is no direct equivalent, but let's just say that a UTI is pretty damned close for a guy, being as how our urethra runs through our sexual organ.

    Just bringing this to light, showing that we may not be as lucky as women seem to think. There are a lot of downsides to having a penis. It's not all "writing your name in the snow" glory and glamour. LOL.:cheers2:

    I may be in the minority, but I do agree with the weight management-time invested point. I may not be attempting to maintain my cheerleader figure:), but it takes some effort to not turn into some sort of blob, I agree.

    I will counter that it takes guys some time and effort to maintain an attractive appearance, too. Five minute showers are just that, showers. The real show starts after the shower, with shaving, hair, etc. When I'm actually trying to look nice (like on special occasions), it can take me as long to "get ready" as it takes my fiance to do the same.

    There are some areas that I would like to kill people for ever messing with. Like the idea that women need to pluck/wax/shave their eyebrows. What do I give a shit if you have a caterpillar growing on your forehead (to quote the gf)? So what? I look like a bare-backed gorilla with my shirt off, and have never entertained the thought of shaving/waxing, etc. If a girl doesn't like it, I'll go somewhere else. There are things that have become, idk, expected of women that honestly, I think have been brought about by and perpetuated by women. Or, I could be completely wrong about everything I've written. I am, afterall, a man. : P
     
  2. Karen_J

    Karen_J Visitor

    Oh, anybody can get a UTI. Not fun at all.

    I'm sure any gynecologist would tell you women have a lot more issues between their legs than men do. My gynecologist appreciates it, and all his kids in private colleges appreciate it! ;)

    I'd like to see that video! :D

    It takes more effort for women. I'm not sure why. When you see a couple that has let themselves go, the woman almost always weighs a lot more.

    By women, and gay men. Sometimes on those evening entertainment magazine shows, the gay male fashion analysts will virtually crucify an actress for some minor infraction of a relatively new cosmetic rule, and it makes me want to through a brick through my TV screen. Another goddamn hoop to jump through!

    I don't watch those shows regularly, but I can't give them up 100%. If I choose to ignore a new fashion trend and just let people talk trash about me behind my back, I want to at least know what's going on.
     
  3. Bonkai

    Bonkai Later guys

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    Yes most women do a lot to get "ready" the point is is that they don't have to. Women can initiate sex easier than a man can which is the point I'm trying to make.
     
  4. Karen_J

    Karen_J Visitor

    Bonk, would you really want to fuck TrailerTrashGirl? And if you did, could you find her pussy underneath the blubber? lol
     
  5. Collideascope00s

    Collideascope00s Member

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    Bonkai is correct. Most girls can go out in jeans and a hoodie with no make up and if they wanted to have sex they could get in with very little ease. Doesn't have to be some trailer park girl. Most guys I know if confronted with privacy and a girl who was not dressed up in the least was ready to go, within minutes his pants would be off.

    Men on the other hand generally tend to spend an arm and a leg buying drinks, paying for dinners, movies, other various dates... Get rejected more times then not...
     
  6. Karen_J

    Karen_J Visitor

    Wish I had the self-confidence to do that. Never tried it.
     
  7. jia

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    I will admit it. I am a slut, at least I am very promiscious compared to the national average. According to the book The Ethical Slut a slut is "a person of any gender who has the courage to lead life according to the radical proposition that sex is nice and pleasure is good for you."

    I fit that definition perfectly so I have no shame in admitting that I am a slut.
     
  8. Gumby

    Gumby Banned

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    That sucks that double standard as far as sex goes defines and stereotypes names. Being a slut, whore etc. isn't always bad thing, it's a way of life that some of us choose, and there is nothing wrong with pleasure. It may have been derogatory when the words were made up, but now it's acceptable and something of pride for some of us because we can openly admit it. Take for instance the word "******", I am originally from Long Beach and the word "******" doesn't bother them to much anymore. In rap they always call each other "nigga" or "******" Blah, blah, blah...
     
  9. Collideascope00s

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    I'm personally learning to look past the stigma of a permiscous (sp) women and trying to view it in the same light I view my sex life as I go whoring around. Tough beating it considering I was raised in a fairly stern Catholic household. But I'm getting there. Just need to change my way of thinking.
     
  10. Vanilla Gorilla

    Vanilla Gorilla Go Ape

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    There is no double standard.

    The hot straight guys are never desperate, they spend more time fending off girls than having to chase them. Just most guys are in denial about what their "ranking" is
     
  11. ChangeHappens

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    The double standard exists as a social mechanism to uphold cultural traditions. In general, most people still believe this, not because of any logic behind the actual 'standard' but because it instills people with a sense that homoerotic sexuality namely male-male, is selling yourself short of what you can potentially achieve, a better experience of sex. The parallels of this are awesome - take a look and question why it is that male to male sex, is more socially despised than female to female. The notion that two males would have sex, is simply going against the reasons behind the double standard, why the 'hell'(subconcious) would two males have sex with each other, when they are not recieving anything! Ridiculous...It seems then that hs double standard has a double meaning - it is a way to keep believing that heterosex is the best and therefore NOT even THINK twice about sex with a man and therefore never become socially repelled. Many beliefs work is such a fashion - take the whole homosexuality is wrong debate - I just always get a sense that these people dont actually care for the truth, but to uphold the stress that they feel i questioning their sexuality and feeling social inept.

    My point is, that it has multiple Points - the one i am pointing out in this one is that beliefs in people and yes, this double standard, are not always about the direct reasons behind the double standard, they are for indirect reasons, as well. This problematic is also one of the reasons why women will never hold much power in politics and never be social equals, fear can make anyone believe just about anything, especially if it has never been exposed as unesscary and indoctrinated into the person at a young age.

    another GO at the arguments about women giving sex, are irrelevant, when you notice that if A person cannot give what they are receiving from B person, they are sacrificing themselves for some higher purpose(mostly religious or societal status), something that animals could never conciously do, atleast from empirical documents. Ever try and raise a dog to adhere to cultural and or spiritual beliefs? The dog will just bark and want to play with you, even if it means humping your leg. Give a dog a bone, yeah, but a belief haha, shakespear would never have let you heard the end of it and thats what that argument relies on beliefs are largley a part of our sexual experience.


    I really dont know where this all began, but its a very difficult thing to accept - though not so much when i keep in mind that these people want a better life for themselves and giving up certain core beliefs will only make it worse for them. The only thing is that this is true in many cases - however, what they fail to see is their own power in deciding social norms. The take social norms as self apparent and therefore, base plenty of their conclusion about how they will feel in a social setting. One of the biggest obstructions of our cultural evolution in sex, people believing in people, instead of ideas.
     
  12. NotDeadYet

    NotDeadYet Not even close.

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    The double standards seem to be pushed mainly by older women, who fear competition from the hot girls.
     
  13. ChangeHappens

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    Your post has reminded me of another possible reason that I believe is reality in some lives. Reality means without question and nessecary.

    If a man believes that a women gives sex and his experience of sexuality is affect by this thought, to the extent that he actually experiences this, then a women, would have control over this mans life, by means of sexual satisfaction. In my relationship, I have equal control of sex as does my partner, because we both please each other to satisfying extents that leave none of us with more power or less.

    From personal experience, previously this was not really the case, as it seemed that I benefitted more from sex than her, considering that I was Prematurely Ejaculating. Eventually, I realized the simplicity that we were both in this experience together and we were niether recieving nor giving, as in sex I realized and showed her(important part) that we both benefit equally. Indeed, this also seems to have helped her loosen up and enjoy more, which in turn changed the dynamic to what it is now. This is something very wonderful and electrifying, a life changing process that takes time and communication. But the rewards are constant and grow exponentially!
     

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