"When I'm president, there's not going to be an international crisis"

yes, Hitchens was devil's advocate AGAINST mother Theresa's canonization. My mistake though, it is not a paid position. Quite an honor though. Oh wait, I also made the mistake of calling him Devil's advocate. He was asked to testify informally, as the office was abolished in 1982. Nonetheless, he served the same function as devil's advocate, at the behest of the Church.

source: http://www.answers.com/topic/devil-s-advocate

Ari, may i suggest the ignore feature? It keeps me from having to read the unbalanced rantings of fyrenza.

 

i was being facetious.

Certainly, if either Canada or Mexico was attacked, the US would move to protect us all!

i was blowing smoke about the guns ~ just going by something i heard, which evidently wasn't true.

But ~ Does Canada have much of a military? Do you feel like y'all could be attacked by nukes and you'd be able to defend yourselves? (hey ~ and that's not me baiting you ~ i'd honestly like to know, from the horse's mouth, so to speak )

 

i've got to agree with Psych Rocker about us being attacked sooner rather than later if Obama is elected.

And i quoted you because i LOVE your assessment! :rofl: :rofl:

 

Check this out...
YouTube - Obama/Oh, Biden

 

And folks are worried about McCain being senile?!?!?

:rofl:

 

Why would anyone want to nuke lakes and trees?

And if they wanted to nuke Toronto, by all means, whatever gets Mats Sundin to stay out of the NHL P) - http://blog.mlive.com/snapshots/2008/10/the_sundin_watch_returns.html

Honestly, I don't think anyone would be able to defend themselves in the midst of a nuclear attack. If you think you can, they you might be in denial. We do have ballistic missile defense stations, quite a few of them have developped recently in the past 10 years - so yeah, we have the capabilities to take down planes, nukes, etc.

Did you know that before WWII Canada had the largest Navy in the entire world?? Sure, it may not look like we've got a massive Armed Forces or large military budget, but then again, we've never had planes fly into the Pentagon or the Peace Tower.

I don't think our Canadian Military relies on the USA like a crutch that most Americans seem to think that we do. What's wrong with a smaller military presence in the world and living for hundreds of years in peace? We didn't have a civil war, we never had a revolution - and I see nothing wrong with abstaining from an arms race to the bottom.

 

OMG! ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!

See Above ^^^ :rofl:

Yeah, i do believe that pockets of us would be left, but what kind of life those folks would live? Rather not go there...

No, i didn't know that. So Y'ALL protected US, at one time! Cool! Besides proximity, perhaps that's why we treat each other as family.

Oh, NO! i did NOT mean as a 'crutch' ~ it's just that, like we would depend on y'all to help US out, y'all would certainly depend on us to help YOU out. Just like in real life, we all have a part to perform ~ we have a kick-ass military, and we are dedicated to assigning it to help in the fight for democracy.

i'm so sorry, because we DO feel like y'all are our little sibbling, and that isn't fair to you. But no Canadians come on the forums and tell us about living in Canada, how the folks are (my one visit? y'all are friendly, helpful and just a sweet bunch of folks!), and what's it like having to live in our shadow, as it were, AND IF y'all even live in our shadow anymore. Rest assured that our main-stream media isn't going to tell us. What?!? And make it seem like we aren't THE country to be? ha. ha. ha.

Okay, so, help us out here. Please? And thank you!

 

The #1 priority for Canadian Troops is not to fulfill some kind of allegiance to another country's foreign policy stratagem. We elect government officials who have a responsibility to do the will of their constituents, and if it's public opinion that Canadians don't want to fight alongside the USA, then why would our government disregard that as some kind of brotherly agreement to jump right in and fight?

It's not really about who scratches whose back, because that underestimates the issues that are the most important reasons for engaging in warfare to begin with.

 

Do their constituents want to LIVE???

And, are you telling us that Canada would throw us to the wolves because y'all don't believe what we do? You know, you might want to start thinking about what you'd do if WE decided to take you ~ not many other countries would want to put their forces on the line for your country against us...

And keep making noises like that, on the internet, and you might be surprised at the American reaction to that sort of drivel. i was sort of hoping to make things better ~ let the normal American see things through y'all's eyes. But, man, i've got to tell you ~ pull an attitude like that at a diplomatic session, and there is no telling who your 'Big Brother' might end up being...

Come on, man. Make it BETTER ~ let us know what you're concerned about and why ~ not just here, in this thread, but let ALL of us know how y'all feel! If we can't even communicate, as people, because of ridiculous attitudes, on either of our parts, we're screwed, blued and tattooed.

Do you seriously not understand that our fates are tied together, whether any of us like it or not?

It is EXACTLY about who scratches who's back ~ ever hear of the "Good Ole Boy Network? Well, it only works if there are "Good Ole Boys" ALL OVER THE PLACE.

What in the world do you think would happen to y'all if you 'decided not to fight alongside the USA'??? Believe me when i tell you ~ your country would be up for grabs...

 

I can't wait for ari's response to this!

 

lmfao!

try reading it while listening to this midi file

 

<~ tucks and rolls ~~~ INCOMING!!!

 

Well, right there you are mistaken. Canadians have many allies that the USA does not, including the UK and all the Commonwealth countries, I mean, invading Canada would be like invading the United Kingdom, something I highly doubt would prove to be a winning victory for the USA - we have stronger ties with Cuba, the Netherlands, France, etc.

If the USA were to invade Canada, it wouldn't just be a war, it would flourish into World War III. So, if you want to go down in the history books as being the instigator of WWIII, by all means, attempt to invade us.

Quite frankly, I don't appreciate the American attitude towards Canada's military and foreign policy affairs, of which you have successfully proven that you know so very little about.

Why wouldn't you take our beef when it was perfectly good? Why did you evade softwood lumber tariffs and refuse to pay for them retro-actively? Why did you not listen to us when we warned you about 0 down mortgages that caused your subprime fiasco? Why didn't you listen to us when we said that invading Iraq was bound to fail? And why can't half of your people afford health care insurance? Why aren't you listening to us for a change instead of holding the threat of war over our heads?

Really, instead of using us and our dollar for centuries to your benefit, why are you expecting us to die for Americans?

We already headed you off in 1812 and look where that got you when you tried to invade. Your evil plans were foiled by a woman. And we took back Montreal - now look at it, it's the most wonderful city because it happens to still belong in Canada.

I'm telling you how Canadians feel. We don't want you to dictate our policy. Thanks, but no thanks. We can run things better with our parliamentary system, and we don't go to you for advice on how to fight or how to make decisions that will deliberately put OUR citizens in danger. The Federal Government wasn't created to set up malitias to ship soldiers over to kill Sunnis and Shiites so that Disney can set up shop in the Green Zone. The Canadian Federal Government exists for the purpose of serving its own people, period. No iffs ands or buts.

We have a motto in Canada, much like the "Life, Liberty, and Pursuit of Happiness" chime Americans have, and ours goes a little something like this: "The Constitution was created to uphold Peace, Order and Good Government". I fail to see anywhere in our Constitution where it reads "And bend over each time the Americans say they want something."

I'm a feminist. Do you expect me to swallow your "Good Ol' Boys" metaphor and accept that as some kind of reason to follow alongside the USA?

Why would we want to set up FEMA camps, or wiretap warrantless phonelines, raise the drinking age, lower minimum wage, abolish same sex marriage, and live in a police state? Why? Why would we want to be just like Americans? Because Canadians are not Americans. We don't have the same ideas as you, nor do we have any intentions of assimilating and becoming just like you.

I'm sorry, you might think it's fine, dandy and wonderful to be an All-American, and perhaps that is the very reason why you fail to recognize why everyone else in the world chooses to live differently then you do.

Americans make some very, very, obvious and detrimental mistakes. It's about time Americans wake up and realize they are not infallable.

 

What was your first clue? When i said, in no uncertain terms, i don't know anything about y'all's political scene? Cripes. i was (and am) wondering what it is like to be Canadian, in view of the issues i outlined.

Gosh, this has gotten so far off track. Unless... Is this how MOST Canadians feel about the US? (and i'm not trying to get you to speak for everyone, nor am i laying an ambush re:'sources')

It could also have read Good Ole GIRL network, but there aren't that many women (a majority)

yet,

We don't think we're infallible ~ heck, just look at all the protests we make against a government that isn't serving OUR needs and wants very well, either.

And fyi? i'm pretty non-All-American, according to American standards.

 

Well, that's reassuring.

 

Great writing ari, you should save it. Seriously. Well done.

 

Sorry, couldn't resist.

The USA has 90 guns per 100 residents.
Canada has 30 guns per 100 residents.

Source. and another Link.

In short, the USA has 270 million guns Canada has 10 million.

Talkin' dust ?

The last i heard Canada rejected a US Missile Defense Shield"as of 2006".
Care to name a few or atleast one Station?
I believe Canada can track planes, nukes,etc but NOT shoot down. But You're the expert i'll let you sort it out for us.

The UK is one of our best allies.

Okay, most know it would last less than a week.

I'm sure our war-planners have taken that into consideration,

Why would We ? Seen any ?

Sure You do, Link as a bonus they even banned the media.

The USA has an underage drinking problem, many states 31 i believe have drinking ages below 21.

Is that before or after the exchange rate?

Its legal in 3 states.

Whatever, getting desperate now.

No, It's GREAT!

It's obvious you haven't been out of Canada.

Name 1 country that doesn't, just 1.

 

HAHAHAHAHA. he's just begging for it, isn't he? dumbass.

 

Anyone notice he changed the denominator?

By your math:
USA has 90 guns per 100 residents
Canada has 3000 guns per 100 residents.

I didn't check the source you posted, but in terms of per capita, you do seem to be full of shit. Was that a mistake, or did you not think we would notice you changed the standard to "100 residents" to avoid getting a figure of .9 guns per resident? When you change the denominator on one side of an equation, you have to change it on the other side too.

I've lived in Canada. it's not hard to get a gun as long as you are not a criminal or mentally unstable. My Uncle always had more guns than you could shake a stick at, and I never had problems shooting hand throws with my cousins. It's a hunter's paradise.

 

i didn't change the denominator , ever make a typo ?

I forgot to add "per 100 residents" sue me.

And thx for noticing it so i could fix.


If you would have checked the source, or knew anything about it you would have seen this as a typo.

btw, i didn't set the standards to 100 per resident, i believe the people doing the survey did.

lmfao, talf about bad math, geeez. I mistakenly said Canada had 30 guns per resident, where did you come up with 3000?

Is that all you have to offer, your opinion?

I'll listen/read any FACTS you present.
Try google.

Don't be so judgmental the only thing you found wrong or decided to comment on was a typo.