Where are all the Christians?

Well that's funny I have in recent months merged a Christo-centric view into my belief system and have yet to read the new testament cover to cover, and couldn't even tell you genesis: 1,1.

 

I can't speak for Christians, only myself. I post on the main site somewhat more often than I do in the Sanctuary, but for different reasons. As a Christian, I sometimes like to get feedback from other Christians on certain questions without dealing with the "noise" of a bunch of people telling me "bullshit"; "you're ignorant"; "Jesus was a fag", etc. When I'm looking for an intelligent answer to a question involving my faith, those responses can be annoying. I'm used to it now, and enjoy the dialogue. I appreciate the opportunity to go both ways. Sanctuary has the major advantage and disadvantage of being free from Fedup American. I like being able to come back here when I get Fedup withdrawal.

The taboo about quoting scripture does handicap free discussion, if a question comes up like "What did Jesus think about such & such" or "why do Christians believe this or that?", and no one is able to quote directly a source that answers the question. But if we're allowed to do that in Sanctuary, no problem. By the way, if you've ever visited that site, not many Christians are quoting the Bible there, but at least it's possible to do so. I dislike Bible thumpers, and most of the Christians in Sanctuary seem to feel the same way.

 

A bunch are in the atheist/agnostic forums trying to prove the existance of god.

 

You can never prove the existence of "God" to anyone other than yourself.

It is something that has to be realized on an inner level.


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No, it can not. Insanity is an involuntary malfunction of
the physical brain, while meditation on God is not only
voluntary, but at times extremley difficult in ways you
probably can not imagine. ~

 

Well, you ARE the undisputed champ....

 

I believe in christ, but I feel I have nothing to prove to any anti-christian. believe what you want to believe. I dont follow mainstream christianity AT ALL. I think all of those people are kooks. I follow christs teachings that were banished from all text and the bible years ago. jesus had a good thing going on. he believed in no organized religion, it was sad to see his followers organized it all.

 

Clearly you never go out much where they tell you you are very bad for not being a christian and that you will certainly go to hell for it... acceptance my ass.

 

im a christian ghost lyric,want do u want to ask? most chistians dont say they r unless u ask cause, most people just wanna argu or say something stupid about chritianity

 

no, i dont call anyone stupid, because theres billions of religions and who really knows which one is right? What church do you go to? baptist,.southern baptist, free will, etc? first of all.

 

hey st louis huh! im in Joplin! A fellow Missourian!

 

Truth and brain washing?

Man, words are words... they are packages that carry thought, thoughts are packages that carry emotions, and emotions are measurable energy.

It takes one angry, bitter, and screwed up soul, to constantly see nothing but negative... feel nothing but negative, and ultimatly interpret Jesus to be the pinnacle of negative the way you do.

Like I said b4, even if you rule out his dinvinity, and read the new testament as a HISTORICAL document, or even a NOVEL, Chirst still lived quite a very inspiring life.

No offence or anything but I am too much of a luvy-dovy kinda cat to hate anyone who tried to teach me something to better myself as a human being.

 

I AM A CHRISTIAN. I will talk to you Ma'am. Just PM me and I will deliver.

 

Tommy: Campbell got banned because he derailed every thread with his maniacal premillenialist rantings.

Unfortunately, almost all of the reasonable Christian regulars apparently decided to leave with him on principle.

Thanks for providing the link, anyway.

 

Can anyone actually give me a true fact that can prove that god exists WITHOUT any bible references. Take the bible completely out of the conversation. Pretend to yourself that there is NO bible. What makes you believe, you can be able to control your mind enough to actually move things, or make yourself hear answers, but its not god, its you. How do you know that god is answering your prayers and that its just not working that way, and if he doesnt then you say that it wasnt gods will. then theres no proof there, either. historical research shows the bible is actually not correct, so why believe in it? its been translated so many times,. plus theres dead sea scrolls missing in it, and the catholics decided to give up on limbo because of pregnancies. Theres also been proof shown that the man that is the son of god isnt even jesus! its just so washed up with misunderstandings, i dont see how anyone can believe with faith. dont you need facts? faith of a god and a heaven is for people who are afraid of death. Why do you think there is 80% old people that go to church?

Can someone be able to answer all of that?? Im not trashing you by all means, I am just wanting to know for my own self.

 

Ghost, you just dont understand.
This is the problem, because you are talking about
the sheep like people who are brain washed, and
including all of us who realize God in your insulting
accusations that we "fear death" so thus we believe
in God without any other reason. Fear of death, a
book with words, and the faith in a guy who is said
to have claimed to have been the son of God.

Not everyone is like this!
No, God does not answer your prayers when you are
asking for alterations of your life.
Karma is responsible for your life's consequesnses and
that means that ultimatley, YOU are responsible.
Sure, maybe by praying and meditating you are getting
in tune with God, which may directly alter your conciousness,
thus creating a chain of reactions (beginning with you) and
this may seem like God is answering/ignorning your prayers,
but no, this is not how God works.
If it were, free will would not be reality.

Look, honestly Ghost I can see where you are coming from and
I have thought and realized the same exact things about the
Christian religion, and other religions, but the truth is that
not all God realized people think this way!

The sad thing is, most people are either wrapped up in the
delusion of the emotional God in the Bible and the stories
told in that fantasy world (I believe in some of the New
Testament, however), or they are wrapped up in the polar
opposite deulsion known as atheism.
The real breakthough of maya (cosmic delusion) is when
you see with the 3rd eye that this whole entire physical
univerese is a deceptive game that you CAN see through.
It's all a big movie, being played against the screen
of ether, space.
Om, light, matter, time, all of these illusions are the beam
of coded vibration projected onto the screen.
And God is the projector. -

 

pppfffff, he sure fooled me!

 

Also, thank you for replying without the bible thumping and scriptures. And through your own beliefs, thats what i want to know. I dont want a debate or arguement.

 

Your awesome Ghost
I just want to say real quick, that no, evolution
has not been proven.
Does it make perfect, absolute, unrivaled sense?
Yes, of course.
Can we PROVE that's how it happened?
No, we dont remember it as a species.
Also, does it disprove God?
Definitley not, evolution is part of our physical
reality, but it doesnt mean that God didnt
create it! Just that he didnt create human
beings as the human beings are today.

And, also, my analogy about life being likened
to a movie being played in a movie theater,
with God as the source of which we are an
emanation of and from..
Their is no way to know HOW God was created.
Likewise, there is no way to know HOW WE were
created.
The prints and codes of our beginning our left
behind in the aftermath of initial creaion (Om, for
example, the underlying vibration to all existance)
but we cant find the actual physical "place" where
it all went down, or how it happened.
We can say, oh, it happened like the Big Bang theory,
but only it was sound exploding out very fast, then
slowly matter came into actualization following the
trail of the programmed astral pathway dimension,
but we cant ever say how that happened, other
than some short, unsatisfying answer like "God
did it."
Nor will we know why it happened.
But that doesnt mean that God didnt dream us up,
it only means we dont have the ability to perceive
the way that this creation works, we can only perceive
it's results, and we can study some of the evidence
left behind, but like evolution, we dont remember
when it happened, so there is no way to 'proove'
any of it.
But, you dont remember the day you were born, Im
assuming?
Does that mean that wether or not you were actually
born is open to speculation?