That is not what I said. Some women fantasize about being offered up to a man, some men fantasize about being offered up to a woman, (interchange the man/woman with whatever you want). Maybe the parts of the Islamic doctrine that are availiable for public consumption only mention the part about women being offered up to men. Maybe some lost Islamic scroll or whatever mentions men being offered up to women, I may be wrong but I'm sure it does not forbid this anywhere in the extant version of the Koran. And as for your question "so a real woman is a thing to be used" - it depends on what the real woman and real man/woman/whatever wants. Just gotta be consensual.
I know nothing about Islam but thats never stopped me before. Given that when we die our physical bodies will be either burnt or burried or some such there will obviously be no sex in the conventional sense in heaven. Therefore this must be a metaphorical point rather like the bibles continual references to 'gnashing of teeth' in hell. Experiences in heaven or hell are purely spiritual ones, so as these passages are metaphorical and designed to induce a mental picture I dont really think the initial question is relevant. Whether or not the statement says something about peoples attitudes I dont know enough about the context of the passage to tell.
Qur'aan:...It is made lawful to you on the night of the fast to go in unto your wives; they are (Libas )an apparel for you and you are ( Libas ) an apparel for them... *Peace and love*Yours Sincerely, Cat Stevens
Huh! and don't you hear that Muslims should ask their wives first to have 6!I wish I'm not wasting my time here *Peace and love*Yours Sincerely, Cat Stevens
Bring it on fellows. Occam wants the top dog of islam here to argue with... Can u get him? dont want to waffle on with u conditioned yes men who could could not argue your way out of a paper bag Occam
erm... yeah... oookkkkkkkkaayyyy.... i'll be right back with the top dog......... <walks to door slowly, not turning his back, goes through, shuts the door quietly and runs like buggery away from the scary guy>
Tipo U think occam is not serious.? Occam is as serious as it gets my friend Bring on your islamic leaders.. or accept that they are too cowardly to speak for their religion. you think cause occam is some 'small guy' that he fears the 'top minds' of islam HAHAHAHAAHA Let them speak. an occams questions will tie them in knots they cannot escape without tossing their 'beliefs' Not his proclamations of fact. but HIS QUESTIONS Occam
fat_tony !!!! every one will die someday, and someday there will be no living being on earth except Allah after that Allah will give lives again to mankind, ''day of judgement'' !!!! we will be alive with our bodies! WOW I long to that day WANNA meet Allah *Peace and love*Yours Sincerely, Cat Stevens
Met him down the pub once, tall bloke, dark hair, bought me a pint. Nice lad, just a bit manky when it came down to sharing the smokes.
Accordingly Sexual satisfaction or whateva is for both!*Peace and love*Yours Sincerely, Cat Stevens
See ya on the day of Judgement:sunglasse WOW I REALLY DO LONG TO THAT DAY *Peace and love*Yours Sincerely, Cat Stevens
There is no day of judgement And never will be . Only a damaged ego with little mind hopes for a day of judgement others may be judged less than them..and thus they feel beter. Judgement day is a false hope fore the hopeless how sad Occam
I Want to Live in a Wigwam Lyrics By catstevens');We gotta get our heads up in the skyWe gotta get our heads up in the skyWe gotta get our heads upGotta give it timeWe gotta get our heads up in the skyGotta get to heaven get a guideWe gotta get to heaven get a guideWe gotta have a guideWe gotta get to heaven get a guideAlhamdulilah I got the GUIDE *Peace and love*Yours Sincerely,Cat Stevens
Tipo Not a bad situation at all Only Those 'threatened' would think so. Occam cannot be 'threatened' cause no belief is held emotionally. His understanding is accurate to reality.. or not. And it is his job to find out what IS. He came here asking 'where do the virgins come' from and has recieved all sorts of crap but few answers that are rational.. Occam never gives up , so leave now if the thinking is too hard. Occam
Cat .. YES..we will [quote:we will see] you WANT IT Occam cares not one way or the other for he cannot be judged by a rational god as being BAD And if god is irrational. then life is a farce Occam cannot be 'disappointed' ever you, can Occam