Where do the virgins come from?

Discussion in 'Islam' started by Occam, Jul 4, 2006.

  1. Tipo Sensuale

    Tipo Sensuale Senior Member

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    That is not what I said.
    Some women fantasize about being offered up to a man, some men fantasize about being offered up to a woman, (interchange the man/woman with whatever you want). Maybe the parts of the Islamic doctrine that are availiable for public consumption only mention the part about women being offered up to men. Maybe some lost Islamic scroll or whatever mentions men being offered up to women, I may be wrong but I'm sure it does not forbid this anywhere in the extant version of the Koran.

    And as for your question "so a real woman is a thing to be used" - it depends on what the real woman and real man/woman/whatever wants. Just gotta be consensual.
     
  2. fat_tony

    fat_tony Member

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    I know nothing about Islam but thats never stopped me before. Given that when we die our physical bodies will be either burnt or burried or some such there will obviously be no sex in the conventional sense in heaven. Therefore this must be a metaphorical point rather like the bibles continual references to 'gnashing of teeth' in hell. Experiences in heaven or hell are purely spiritual ones, so as these passages are metaphorical and designed to induce a mental picture I dont really think the initial question is relevant. Whether or not the statement says something about peoples attitudes I dont know enough about the context of the passage to tell.
     
  3. catstevens

    catstevens Muslim Top To Toe

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    Qur'aan:​
    ...It is made lawful to you on the night of the fast to go in unto your wives; they are (Libas )an apparel for you and you are ( Libas ) an apparel for them...
    *Peace and love*
    Yours Sincerely,
    Cat Stevens
     
  4. catstevens

    catstevens Muslim Top To Toe

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    Huh! and don't you hear that Muslims should ask their wives first to have 6!
    I wish I'm not wasting my time here

    *Peace and love*
    Yours Sincerely,
    Cat Stevens
     
  5. Occam

    Occam Old bag of dreams

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    Bring it on fellows.

    Occam wants the top dog of islam here to argue with...
    Can u get him?

    dont want to waffle on with u conditioned yes men
    who could could not argue your way out of a paper bag

    Occam
     
  6. Tipo Sensuale

    Tipo Sensuale Senior Member

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    erm... yeah... oookkkkkkkkaayyyy....

    i'll be right back with the top dog.........

    <walks to door slowly, not turning his back, goes through, shuts the door quietly and runs like buggery away from the scary guy>
     
  7. Occam

    Occam Old bag of dreams

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    Oh yes

    The simple minded always go for the 'quotes' of their chosen delusion
     
  8. Occam

    Occam Old bag of dreams

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    Tipo

    U think occam is not serious.?
    Occam is as serious as it gets my friend

    Bring on your islamic leaders.. or accept that they are too cowardly to speak
    for their religion.
    you think cause occam is some 'small guy' that he fears the 'top minds' of islam

    HAHAHAHAAHA

    Let them speak. an occams questions will tie them in knots they cannot escape without tossing their 'beliefs'
    Not his proclamations of fact.
    but HIS QUESTIONS

    Occam
     
  9. catstevens

    catstevens Muslim Top To Toe

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    fat_tony
    !!!! every one will die someday, and someday there will be no living being on earth except Allah after that Allah will give lives again to mankind, ''day of judgement'' !!!! we will be alive with our bodies! WOW I long to that day[​IMG] WANNA meet Allah[​IMG]

    *Peace and love*
    Yours Sincerely,

    Cat Stevens

     
  10. Tipo Sensuale

    Tipo Sensuale Senior Member

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    Met him down the pub once, tall bloke, dark hair, bought me a pint. Nice lad, just a bit manky when it came down to sharing the smokes.
     
  11. catstevens

    catstevens Muslim Top To Toe

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    Accordingly Sexual satisfaction or whateva is for both!
    *Peace and love*
    Yours Sincerely,
    Cat Stevens
     
  12. Occam

    Occam Old bag of dreams

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    rubbish

    Occam
     
  13. catstevens

    catstevens Muslim Top To Toe

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    See ya on the day of Judgement:sunglasse ​
    [​IMG]WOW
    I REALLY DO LONG TO THAT DAY[​IMG]

    *Peace and love*
    Yours Sincerely,
    Cat Stevens


     
  14. Tipo Sensuale

    Tipo Sensuale Senior Member

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    Virginland obviously.......


    (making a bad situation worse)
     
  15. Occam

    Occam Old bag of dreams

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    There is no day of judgement

    And never will be .
    Only a damaged ego with little mind hopes for a day of judgement
    others may be judged less than them..and thus they feel beter.

    Judgement day is a false hope fore the hopeless

    how sad

    Occam
     
  16. catstevens

    catstevens Muslim Top To Toe

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    I Want to Live in a Wigwam Lyrics

    By catstevens​
    ');​
    We gotta get our heads up in the sky​
    We gotta get our heads up in the sky​
    We gotta get our heads up​
    Gotta give it time​
    We gotta get our heads up in the sky​
    [​IMG]
    Gotta get to heaven get a guide​
    We gotta get to heaven get a guide​
    We gotta have a guide​
    We gotta get to heaven get a guide​
    Alhamdulilah I got the GUIDE:D
    *Peace and love*
    Yours Sincerely,
    Cat Stevens
     
  17. catstevens

    catstevens Muslim Top To Toe

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    We will see[​IMG]
    *Peace and love*
    Yours Sincerely,
    Cat Stevens
     
  18. Occam

    Occam Old bag of dreams

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    Tipo

    Not a bad situation at all
    Only Those 'threatened' would think so.

    Occam cannot be 'threatened' cause no belief is held
    emotionally.
    His understanding is accurate to reality.. or not.
    And it is his job to find out what IS.

    He came here asking 'where do the virgins come' from and
    has recieved all sorts of crap but few answers that are rational..
    Occam never gives up , so leave now if the thinking is too hard.

    Occam
     
  19. Occam

    Occam Old bag of dreams

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    Cat ..

    YES..we will [quote:we will see]
    you WANT IT
    Occam cares not one way or the other
    for he cannot be judged by a rational god as being
    BAD
    And if god is irrational.
    then life is a farce

    Occam cannot be 'disappointed'
    ever

    you, can

    Occam
     
  20. squawkers7

    squawkers7 radical rebel

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    obviously virgins come from someone who was NOT a virgin

    [​IMG]
     

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