Where is the human race headed?

Voice Of Truth:

The universe doesn't. Everything is somehow...a thing!

Can consciousness become its own matter, indefinitely?

: D

 

...to the sto`!

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It will never happen.

All and any process without a moral component is doomed to fail. Technology has no morality and neither do those that create it or exploit it. There are literally thousands of examples where we already have the means to solve some of our most heinous problems. But nothing is done...

Humanity's hope rests in creating a craftsman based society.
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lol

 

yes, I think so too

 

Craft? Like which? poll it I partisan, all sorts, lick a rash, oh my gash, here come da artisan!

( Sorry, as I was going to St Ides, not marching ) : D

 

A large chunk of humanity will perish once the infrastructure it totally relies on for sustenance collapses- and that collapse is inevitable. The ones that survive will be the ones who know how to feed, clothe, shelter, and defend themselves... they'll have the knowledge and skill to manage a piece of land to cultivate food year after year... rotating different things to replenish what has been stripped... they'll know how much to grow, how to preserve, and how much to save for seed stock the next year. They'll also know how to hunt.

We've collectively been culturally separated from wisdom that is no longer passed down from generation to generation about survival skills like farming and have been made vulnerable to the weaknesses inherent in an economic system that commandeers a working man's/woman's waking hours for the purpose of servicing a corporate bottom line instead of seeing to his/her family's year to year survival.

The economic basket that all our eggs are in has shown itself to be quite fragile- susceptible to the whims of entities who couldn't possibly care any less about the welfare of the common man- who- for his part in all this- is increasingly conditioned to turn to institutional (governmental, legal) remedies for matters that formerly were addressed through family and community support. By coaxing the population away from a close-knit community system, the consumer economy has greatly weakened the common citizen- and by allowing ourselves to become isolated from our neighbors we have made ourselves vulnerable as individuals.

 

Nothing is done because there's either no profit to the solution or the profit isn't big enough.

 

Stink, you are completely right on everything you say. Our culture and economy now has weakened us as a species. In the wild, you see animals (mammals particularly) banding together to create "communities" where they all help each other. In our species and "communities" its every man for himself...

I think our world has become very hostile and selfish. I see it here, I see it everywhere. People only care about their well-being and the well-being of their families. I'm not saying people have stopped caring, I'm saying that "Love thy neighbor" isn't as big a deal as it was-say 50 years ago.

At the rate we are going with the selfishness, man will kill off the species before any natural disaster hits. We see it now with terrorism and gangs and people going insane under the pressure of their lives.

We are an over-populated world with an under-populated resource bank. More wars are bound to start over the loss of all of the things we are told we "need."

 

Stinkfoot:

While the collapse of profiteering may be inevitable, I am not sure how it warrants propheteering the perishing of large portions of people??

 

You got it...

The profound insanity in all this is the fact that, in the face of what seems to be the slow but steadily accelerating decline of the economy, most still insist on defining their hopes and dreams within its framework- that a pile of cash is somehow better security than the ability to feed and fend for oneself year after year.

People even now willfully ignore that the current economic "crisis" would not have been possible without cooperation from those who will tell every one of us (with a straight face) that their highest concern and priority is our security and happiness. We are no less commodities than the worthless paper that is manipulated and traded for profit within the investment "community".. the same entity that engaged in a decades long housing and investment scheme whose natural course guaranteed that a significant number of lives would be ruined... a matter of minor inconvenience to those who've made a killing from it.

...and we're urged to turn to the government for remediation and mostly get speeches- which is pretty generous considering the fact that the government was an active and willing participant in bringing the whole mess down in the first place.

 

Basically they will not be able to feed themselves

 

lovelyxmalia:

I take back my bright outlook. Doom! Doom! Doom! ; )

 

Stinkfoot:

For every imagined skill-shortage, our wisdom in survival has not degenerated as far as our fears would have us believe. The world can feed itself, it is however as you have pointed out, stricken by the 'system' where simply love could suffice.

 

I do not see it as imagined. Some will certainly survive. Those who totally rely on a food industry to feed themselves will not fare all that well once there is a total collapse... and with the total economic collapse will likely come a security collapse where the police will be incapable and likely unwilling to protect us from one another- and in a food crisis situation it will be other regular folks who will be the main threat to our day to day survival. The herd will thin itself.

 

to the finish line.

 

Because like technology, the pursuit of profit is a process without morality.

For example,
An overwhelming 80% or more of the problems in most african nations are due to lack of clean water and sewage removal. The solution is plumbing and toilets. But pharmaceutical companies continue to use these poor african nations as as their field testing facilities. In short, there is more money in finding new ways to stop diarrhea or misdiagnose a man with a disease than to install a sewer system and toilet.

Why??

• Because business lacks a moral component.
• Because the pursuit of technology lacks a moral component.

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Understand that when speak of morality that I'm not talking about christian morals, etc. I'm talking about "common morals." That meaning morals that are self-evident and do not require being written down. Such things as people before profit, do not create things that will cause harm, etc. are all examples of "common morals." A man/woman would have to be mentally deficient to not be able to deduce "common morality" for themselves.

Morality destroys the blind pursuit of profit and it creates societies based on skills and artisans. It also creates very liberal, loving and stable societies that live in harmony with their environment.

 

The human race is headed to some kind of event which can be looked at from many sides where mass loss of human life will happen. Our species is consuming to much of the natural world. Wether it be food, water, the air we breathe, our natural forests and oceans, one thing is certain, if we lose any of them, the others will be greatly affected. It is going to be inevitable if we don't change our ways fast. Its hard to say when that time is, but it feels so close you can almost smell it.

We have already consumed half of the worlds natural forests. Water shortages are showing up around the world. Whole countries are dying from food starvation. Some countries are invading others for resources since none exist in their own. Jungles are being cut down without hesitation. We are losing an average of 200 species year. Whether its frogs, fish, or the tiny insect, they are all slowing becoming extinct. The amount of garbage we produce every year is incredible. So much waste, not physical items now, but the toxic gases and sludges are that are dumped into the air and water.

We are always fighting with each other and for some reason trying to create things that harness power we are not capable of dealing with if something where to go wrong. Sooner or later one of these science projects might go very wrong and who knows what will happen.

Those movies about how a disease leaks from a government lab and turns everyone into a zombie is not far fetched. The zombie part is, but a disease spreading death in huge numbers is. Those who work on creating biological weapons better not backfire.

Our current ways as a species is too greedy and destructive. Something is bound to happen.

 

Moral considerations eat into profits indeed- and we've been conditioned to accept that technology, industry, and the economy presumably must operate outside moral constraints. We're told (and accept) that market forces are the only thing that can impose moral standards on an industry or technology as though those forces are some third person party to act on our behalf... they aren't- those forces are us literally- yet we miss the fact that by purchasing a particular good or service that we are effectively giving our assent to the entire process of exploitation that brought it about.

Collectively we ignore our own role as the agent of change- choosing the easy path that affirms and enables profiteering on the backs of slave and child labor and on the plundering of foreign resources. Our very economy and personal mobility is enabled by means that ensure demand for the refined products of a resource which is at the epicenter of global instability- our addiction to it making us a principle provocateur.

No business venture is profitable if we don't make it so and likewise no facet of the economy has any power to imperil our survivability that we didn't willingly cede ourselves.

 

The key words are "market forces."

Regardless if it is consumer/buyer or seller, the market is a representation of business and therefore has no moral component.

When you purchase something, the only value you attach to that object is that of cost as expressed in terms of money. Therefore the pursuit "objects" becomes mass consumerism and mass production; As both consumer and producer attempt to gain as much as possible while spending as little as possible.

Whereas in craftsman based societies, the individuals in a community are directly involved in the creation/growing of the things they need. Therefore the obtaining of "objects" stops being expressed in monetary terms and is expressed in emotions. Pride, accomplishment, equilibrium and creditability replace the forces of consumerism and mass production.

I suppose I should make it clear that pride, accomplishment, equilibrium and creditability are moral components.