Where is the human race headed?

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Evolution is NOT part of Catholic dogma.

In the First book of Maccabees it is made known that God moves in mysterious ways. Therefore if evolution is true, then it simply means that God used the process of evolution. We neither say it is fact nor false.

In Catholic schools the theory of evolution is taught in the same manner math, english, health, etc. are taught. And if one day it is proven to be false, than that too will be taught.

The Catholic church has it's problems. But at least it learned something from the days when it persecuted Copernicus for heresy, having said that the earth revolved around the sun.

The bigger picture is ignorance.

Look at yourself as an example,
You have literally argued for pages against evolution, Catholicism and the New World Order. But you have offered nothing of logic and reason nor of scholarly material. You greet all who seek to understand your paradigm through questions or debate with commentary of "they're wrong and you're right."

I personally refuse to hold any opinion that is neither based on research nor debatable using logical rationality, devoid of emotional solicitation.

 

Ramble_on, why do you use the word 'God' to refer to our source? Why not just reference what it literally is? God is a metaphor, it confuses people. If you referenced the source directly without metaphors you would struggle less in getting people to understand you.

 

Rygoody, when I say God, I mean God. I use no metaphors here.

 

You might be a member of this church
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-14417362

 

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A word is a metaphor... all words are metaphors...

The word 'banana' is not literally a banana.

banana <--- that isn't a banana your seeing there on the screen, you can't pick it up and eat it. Its a word, its a metaphor, referencing the real thing that you can actually pick up and eat.


When you say God.

God <--- Right there is that literally everything that is God?

or.... when you say God are you referring to something not contained in that small space of screen that takes up the word, the metaphor 'God'.

God <--- if 'god' is not contained entirely in the space on that screen with those letters 'g' 'o' 'd', then that means that space of the screen is a metaphor trying to reference something else

what is it that you referencing with that small space on the screen, with those letter 'g' 'o' 'd'?

 

Curtis Mayfield - If there's Hell below

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wow that was crap

 

lol

them new jersey cats'll car-jack yo ass. : D

Um... back on topic?!

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@Brother Voice of Truth

Evolution is NOT part of Catholic dogma.

Unofficially yes it is my brother VOT. They teach forms of evolutionary creation. This is dangerous and dumb.

In the First book of Maccabees it is made known that God moves in mysterious ways. Therefore if evolution is true, then it simply means that God used the process of evolution. We neither say it is fact nor false.

Evolution is not true. There is not one shred of evidence that supports this State Religious philosophy/world view. Evolution is not only dumb, but dangerous. In the bible, God created man, earth, all the animals, the heavens ...EVERYTHING in 6 literal days. You are reading a NWO bible if you disagree.

In Catholic schools the theory of evolution is taught in the same manner math, English, health, etc. are taught. And if one day it is proven to be false, than that too will be taught.

Again, the Catholic Church is a front in Christ and a pusher of NWO agenda and swings heavily in the HUMANIST world view, which is a world view that perverts the bible and Gods word. I tell you the truth, VOT.

The Catholic church has it's problems. But at least it learned something from the days when it persecuted Copernicus for heresy, having said that the earth revolved around the sun.

You make a interesting point. Scientist once taught that the Earth not only revolved around the sun, but also that if you drop two objects from a height at the same time the heavier one will fall and reach the ground faster. And that by cutting one open to drain the 'bad' blood out, it would clean and heal them faster...this is wrong. Yet, today Evolution is taught in likeness to the ignorance of past agenda biased "Science'

The bigger picture is ignorance.

Amen.

Look at yourself as an example,
You have literally argued for pages against evolution, Catholicism and the New World Order. But you have offered nothing of logic and reason nor of scholarly material. You greet all who seek to understand your paradigm through questions or debate with commentary of "they're wrong and you're right."

See my next post. Though I am not here to argue against the Catholic Church, you merely brought it about our conversation so I will happily speak unto you about it.

I am here to argue and to say Evolution is a lie and is with no evidence what so ever to support it and that it only serves to push an agenda that you are not aware of. I tell you the Truth.


I personally refuse to hold any opinion that is neither based on research nor debatable using logical rationality, devoid of emotional solicitation.

I respect that. You can refuse anything you want. No need to talk with me about these things, if you are only ego stroking your self established opinion of your intellect concerning some voice of truth you may think you have...then I will not partake. But if you want to disscus things honestly and friendly as brothers in Christ I will contiune with you.


The point is, Evolution is fallacy serving to bring about the Humanist world view that is centered around NWO agenda. Humanist think we will evolve to become gods, they want God out of the fabric of society so that man is only accountable to man...eventually serving as a world view to enslave us all.

Brother, if you don't see these things please do not respond to me again in this thread. Go LOOK. I may not respond to you unless you have or present some evidence (Rhetoric) that supports the philosophy/world view/religion of evoltuion...this I will refute with facts.

Your brother in Christ.

 

On Evolution

There are some questions that the theory of Evolution tries to answer, but can't. Though, the rhetoric concerning it is more fitting to fairy tales than science.

There are important questions in life humans often raise with good reason:

1. Who am I ?
2. Where did I come from ?
3. How much am I worth ?
4. Where do I go when I die ?

I have established already that the theory of Evolution can not be proven correct and is a complete lie. There has been a 250,000 offer for anyone who can provide real evidence biased on real science rather than science fiction. This offer has been standing for 15 years and still stands today.

According to the humanist view point (Humanist is a world view on a foundation of Evolution and means that eventually humans can be come God) we can answer question one as this: You are proto plasm that washed up on the beach. Question two can be answered too, according to evolution you came from a cosmic burp and you have no purpose. You are worth nothing. So if it feels good ladies and gentlemen do it ! Where do you go when you die? You are worm food.

In the bible: Genesis 3:1 We learn where Satan first begins his deception that calls to kill off humanity and bring us away from God unto hell. He lies to Eve telling her to be like God, for Satan hates that we are made in God's image. This dumb theory of Evolution and the humanist view point roots in: (remember, Evolution is a Humanist world view to become like Gods)

Genesis 3:1-5
The fall of man

Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the Lord God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden? And the woman said unto the serpent, We may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden: But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die. And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die: For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.

Romans 5:12
Therefore, just as sin came into the world through one man, and death through sin, and so death spread to all men because all sinned

Life came first, then death by and because of sin. As you will see, the humanist world view, founded hard by Evolution, is COMPLETELY opposite and perversive from the Word of our living God. Starting to see this ?


Doubt of Gods word is because of Satan and this happened from the start. Right then and there Evolution got started and it did not begin with Darwin. Theories of man evolving from lesser organisms into Godly ones has been taught throughout the ages. The Egyptians taught that man evolved from a fungus out of the Nile river (Mosses was taught this!), the empire of Greece taught different forms of it too...Darwin made it very popular. Satan is a liar, you can not become God. Though Lucifer wants to: We look onto the book of Isaiah 14:12-14

How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! How art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations! For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north: I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.

It's important to note how Satan tricked Eve into eating from the tree of knowledge. He put a little truth into the lie so that it would seem right. But there was also poison ...Again, tell a lie mixed in with a little truth it may be believed.

Like rat food, mix in a little poison (lie) with some good food and you kill the rat at his own doing...in deception of course. Like Marlboro cigarettes: Place a cowboy image into the advertising and mix in the harmful effects of the cigarette. Will you become a cowboy smoking Marlboro's ? No. Do you have to be a cowboy to smoke Marlboro's ? No. Do all cowboys smoke Marlboro's ? No. Also, like beer and sports marketing/advertising. Will you become a football player by drinking Budweiser ? No. Do all football players drink Budweiser ? No.

Adolf Hitler Said it best:

“If you tell a big enough lie and tell it frequently enough, it will be believed”


The same can be said about the State Religion of Evolution. Mix in a little bit of good science with the bad posion...and behold! Tell kids in the ST grade the Earth is billions and billions and billions of years old and Evolution they will believe you.

Moving on....

Evolution is a tricky word. There are several meanings of it and several definitions of it to explain the formation/starting of several things:

Cosmic evolution: the origin of time, space, and matter from nothing in the “big bang”

Chemical evolution: all elements “evolved” from hydrogen

Stellar evolution: stars and planets formed from gas clouds

Organic evolution: life begins from inanimate matter

Macro-evolution: animals and plants change from one type into another

Micro-evolution: variations form within the “kind”

Only the last one, micro-evolution, has anything to do with real science. For all of human history we have observed variations within the kinds such as 400 varieties of dogs coming from a dog like ancestor such as a fox or a wolf. Dogs produce dogs and corn produces corn. There may be great variations within the basic kind but that is NOT evidence that dogs and corn are related. Every farmer on planet earth counts on micro evolution happening as he develops crops or herds best suited for his area, but he also counts on macro evolution NOT happening. Anything other than minor changes within the kind is not part of science. Evolution as defined as macro evolution is a religion in every sense of the word. People are welcome to BELIEVE the first five types of evolution, but they are not part of science or common sense. Micro evolution is implied as evidence for the other five.

Moving on...

Matter can not be created or destroyed ? How did the world get here ? Humanist believe the world created itself from literally nothing from the "Big Bang" about 18-20 Billion years ago...This is the real fairy tale because atheist state that dirt got together from nothing, really nothing and exploded into everything.

So there are two Religions. One is the Religion of Evolution and the other true one: Christianity.

One says in the beginning dirt...
The other says in the beginning God...

It's Religion vs. Religion. World View vs. World View. One is of truth and love, the other is the exact opposite of the truth in every way. The latter makes more sense and has more real scientific evidence. Because it is the only truth. If you pay attention you will see the Evolutionary Humanist world view is backward from the bible in every way. Up is down and down is up.

Moreover, if Evolution be true and considering all the kinds of Evolution then this must be answered according to the religion of Evolution:

Why are laws not evolving ? Laws like gravity ?
Where did energy come from to run these laws ?

Example, take the law of the Conservation of Angular Motion and hold it true. Why are some galaxies spinning the wrong way according to the law? Why do two known planets spin backward? Why do 8 of 91 known moons spin backward ? If the big bang be true, these observations break the law of the conservation of angular motion. I think God did this to make the "Big Bang" theory to look dumb and false. Because if the Big Bang were true, matter and energy would be evenly distributed across the universe...it is not.

Example, according to the 2ND law of thermodynamics, it is not permitted for order to arise from disorder. Everything breaks down into chaos, but evolution teaches that you will become gods. Also, with this law in mind, adding energy is destructive and evolution violates all this.

I tell you the truth, our ancestors were not sea sponges. But humanist will lead you on and teach unto you that you are an animal and share common ancestors with earth worms. Kids are also taught there are no absolutes as well. Are we absolutely sure about this ?

How can you atheists tell right from wrong ? You see, the fallacy of evolution destroys kids faith in the bible. Let's look onto scripture about the danger of doing so:

Matthew 18:6

But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea

It is interesting to note that in 1957 the Russians launched Sputnik, the first man made satellite into space. At this point, the Russians were leading the space race. Americans came unto panic and thought that because what the Russians were teaching was the reasons they were ahead in this scientific achievement. They thought that because they taught evolution they were smarter...this makes no sense. What does rocket science have to do with evolution...I mean really ?

In 1959, Dwight D. Eisenhower on the 100TH anniversary of Darwin's Origins of Species, called on congress for a billion dollar Cold War Education Reconstruction Bill to transform the way our children are taught in Public Schools. You guessed it, Evolution was ramped up. Though this is not the beginnings of this being taught. It marks a shift away from God into the NWO biased agenda of Evolution...It's also remarkable to note that in the 1960's the United States saw a drastic decline in morality, and the decay of our nation, and the world for that matter, Delcine morally. Look up the stats if you want...The hippie movement also took root, which is heavily humanist, believing that we don't even exist at all. LOL

You can kiss a frog and it transforms into a prince. Kiss frog and it SLOWLY transforms into a prince (Prince William for example).

One is called a fairy tale and the former is called modern science. The magic word: Billions and Billions of years ago....Atheists talk like this a fact of science. Where you there billions of years ago ? Did you test or demonstrate this, ...you can't. It happens so slow that it does not even happen.

In short, Evolution is Satan's Religion and this false theory has influenced the rise of communism, socialism, Marxism, Nazism and the New World Order.

This is just my opener and only serves as a frame work to establish and uphold civil discussions.


Evolution is not only dumb, it is dangerous.

 

That's pretty awesome Ramble... The only argument my woman usually gives me is "But they found Noahs Ark!!!"

 

Brother, I tell you the truth. God is real and living. Evolution is a lie and there is a mountain of evidence to say so, prove so. When I said I could take ten threads to say so, I meant it.

Your brother -

 

Can we expect another 42 page thread about how great women are when you discover sex? I hope so.

 

I guess that means that you really don't believe what you said earlier about scientists, that "The facts they come up with ARE NOT FACTS".

As I've already pointed out to you the Bible itself does not support 6 literal 24 hour days. :sunny:

 

Ram:

LOL

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Lolschelott!

 

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Satan has this guy by the throat! The humanist evolution science religion wants you to duck Jesus! I teellth unto you the truht mine bohrters!! ; D

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Ram, you're a man, ( and a poet besides) you'd let mushrooms grow wouldn't you?! What's your stance on them without treading them underfoot? : D I think a lot of people would try to protect me from them and their unknown organons, quite unwittingly.

 

You're without a doubt the lord of the idiots.
You don't know shit from Shinola.

I'm catholic and french and lived the majority of my life in predominately catholic nation.
We don't teach evolution neither officially nor un-officially.

Next I don't know what the fuck you're smoking but calling the catholic bible NWO is ridiculous.
Considering that the catholic bible is almost 2000 years old !
While your protestant piece of crap is only around 400.

Why don't you give a phone call to Queen of England and ask her about the NWO.
Because the QUEEN OF ENGLAND IS THE HEAD OF THE PROTESTANT CHURCH !!!

 

As if french people are catholic. They're french! They out-catholic catholicism. Their tastes are too catholic for the pope himself ( may his lordshipped holiness be merciful toward me in his popetuity, may he, in no (or at least every measure of ) cupidity, let the sun pass beneath the horizon so I may have the sleep of the innocent. And may his robes remain ever on under it (the sun that is.))