Who else is a robotripper?

Discussion in 'Synthetic Drugs' started by GangGang, Mar 17, 2011.

  1. Aesthete

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    I've read the DXM FAQ. This is a theoretical way for hepatotoxicity to manifest, but there's no evidence for it. Even then, it's not the DXM itself causing liver injury, but whatever else is in your system. There are a lot of other substances out there (foods even, like grapefruit, pomegranate, etc.) that can induce and inhibit liver enzymes that can cause problems, but usually it's not damage to the liver that's a concern, but the toxicity of the drug that's now not being metabolized. The section you quoted says this is how acetaminophen causes hepatotoxicity, which is true: the drug itself does not, but a metabolite does: NAPQI, which is a highly potent liver cell killer. In fact, caffeine (which, by the way, on its own may be good for the liver), increases the toxicity of acetaminophen, and it may be through induction of the enzyme that produces NAPQI.

    So the problem isn't the drug itself, it's potential drug interactions, or even drug-food interactions. And the problem isn't unique to DXM--it could potentially affect a wide range of drugs. But without any evidence that the drug itself or its metabolites, or when combined any other given drug, causes toxicity, then it just remains a theoretical possibility. You know what I mean? I think parts of the DXM FAQ were written to cover theoretical possibilities, because usually people are seeking 100% certainty that an unfamiliar drug is safe, which in reality is never the case for any drug or drug combinations.
     
  2. SweetBlasphemy

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    LSD itself is also virtually non-toxic to humans, but the mechanisms through which your body must process it (i.e. the side effects, over-exertion, sleep deprivation, loss of appetite, etc) still can put a strain on your organs, immune system, etc... which was my initial point, I never claimed that it was processed the same way as alcohol, although now re-reading my post I see I could have worded it more specifically. We can sit and split hairs all day saying that it's not the drug itself, but the potential interactions the metabolites may have with blah blah blah. If the drug was not present in your system, those negative interactions would not be a factor in this case. Example: DXM is known to raise body temperature, extended elevated body temperature is absolutely known to cause kidney damage. And the such. That's all I was saying.
     
  3. Aesthete

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    Fair enough. That's a good point too. DXM can raise blood pressure, which can be bad for the kidneys as well. It causes tachycardia, which can be bad for the heart. Maybe if you're doing it everyday, maybe this could cause actual problems in the long run because of the prolonged strain. Both are probably not much worse than, say, strenuous exercise, and the increased body temperature is probably no worse for your system than a slight fever. It will depend on your tolerance, but, yeah, that's how overdoses can harm you.
     
  4. Aesthete

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    Ugh, this syrup really just gets harder and harder to drink the more times you've drunk it. Can't wait for the nausea to subside and the goodness to set in.
     
  5. GangGang

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    I took 1500mg about an hour ago and wow its kicking my ass,. theres this band called sound of animals fighting.. Perfect for robotripping if your an 'indie- accepting' indivisual! Lol not many people are and the ones who are are normally dueshers.. Just mits good for dxm! Lol

    Ever swam on dxm? And no I dont mean in your mind!
     
  6. GangGang

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    But yeah dxm olerance is a bitch, its a real bitch wouldnt go away for months.. If thjere was a drug test for dxm wed all be fucked :/
     
  7. Aesthete

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    Yeah, tolerance is a god damn bitch. I usually do my trips with GFJ, but didn't this time (3rd plateau), and it was kind of intense at times--though I had less derealization than usual. It seemed really short though... like, I started coming up around 7pm, peaked around 8-10, and by 11:30, the trip was as good as over: didn't even feel that fucked up anymore. I'm afterglowing pretty nice now though, so all's good.

    1.5 grams? Holy shit. How'd that go?
     
  8. GangGang

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    If youve ever done ketamine, methoxetamine, or nitrus they are somewhat comparable for whoever asked this.. Its a dissociative, basically automatic out of body experiences and crazy UNEXPLAINABLE things happen. Not with most psychedelics were you have that feeling like 'I know EXACTLY WHAT THIS MEANS!!!' Plus you fel like your on a high dose of some kind of opiate. GREAT body high feeling, no matter how you sit you are comfortable as balls, you will find your legs stretched over yor head and be thinking 'wow Im comfortable!'

    Awesome drug but of course Im a robotripper I gotta say that.. There is its negative effects.. If you take too much you better hope all you have to do is sit around the next day, its not that your hungover its that you just wanna chillax lol nd if you have to do any chores or anything you just won't.. Other than that there is no overdose potential I have drank 20 oz of delsym before(cant say it was a mistake lol) which is 4, of the 5 oz big bottles.. Jesus that was a crazy trip!
     
  9. GangGang

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    Damn dude you use polistirex right? I think I remember you from a long time ago and we used to talk about robotripping together :D But 1.5 grams was a blast, that night was pretty crazy! I walked into walgreens and saw my old 2nd grade teacher and had to talk to her.. Isnt that great? Lol but she kept pointing out that I was obviously drunk so I just told her I was completely wasted and I was sorry about the whole ordeal lol
     
  10. G0dm4ch1n3

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    I wish there were vendors selling DXM powder back when I would eat 40 damn gelcaps. Bleh. I've done enough robotripping though. After last times 4th plateau trip I was good.
     

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