Who Was Behind The Paris Attacks

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  1. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    Well if the government was behind ISIS, which it is, then the government would stand a lot to gain by lying to the public as they always do. Paris is another classic problem-reaction-solution type scenario -- create a situation which triggers a reaction in the public, so you can then step forward as the saviors proposing the solution as to what we must do (which feeds into exactly what the government wants).

    (Whether you believe the government is behind ISIS or not, you cannot deny they wouldn't be a threat if we hadn't provided them with funding and weapons.)

    Besides, anyone can create a website, claim it's ISIS, state they were behind it, and people will automatically believe it must be true. It amazes me what the public will accept as proof, while completely ignoring who might stand to gain from all of this. People really are lacking when it comes to higher critical thinking.

    The whole terrorist thing is a ruse designed to get people to willingly give up their freedoms in exchange for perceived safety while ushering in a global police state. If people cannot see how the government is using this shit to take over, it really is alarming to me.

    I simply do not and will not believe any of this bullshit as the media presents it to me, because it amounts to nothing more than outright psychological warfare. You folks really believe a bunch of terrorists are able to outsmart some of the biggest governments and intelligence agencies in the world who are supposedly tracking this stuff 24/7 with technology that boggles the mind? I think not.

    But go ahead and hate Muslims while believing it's them who are your ultimate enemies and that big brother is your benevolent protector that cares about making the world a safer place.
     
  2. Cannabliss88

    Cannabliss88 Members

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    I think governments may be allowing these attacks to happen but I don't believe these Islamic extremists are fake.

    There are lots of extemists of all kinds and its unlikely they wouldn't try and attack but its also unlikely the government is going to stop them if it would serve their interests better to let it unfold.

    I don't claim to know but I like to use logic to predict what the most likely scenarios can be and I think its unlikely that religious extremists WOULDN'T use terrorism but also unlikely they would be stopped every time.
     
  3. NoxiousGas

    NoxiousGas Old Fart

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  4. Tyrsonswood

    Tyrsonswood Senior Moment Lifetime Supporter

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    Fixed...
     
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  5. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    Except that guy brings up more valid points and asks more critical questions than the corporate media ever will.
     
  6. Tyrsonswood

    Tyrsonswood Senior Moment Lifetime Supporter

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    That doesn't mean I would believe him either.
     
  7. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=De_PyuLDfhg
     
  8. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    But all you do is repeat shit you hear in the media. Are you saying the corporate media isn't propaganda?
     
  9. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    I have no idea if it was "staged" in the sense it didn't happen. It looks pretty "real" in that respect. However, there have been terrorist events that have been completely staged (Boston, etc.) where likely no lives were lost and no injuries occurred. I have not seen or read enough to draw a conclusion about the recent events in Paris, but I probably will in the coming days.

    What I will say is that, regardless of that, who stands to gain from all of this remains the same. These events play into exactly what the government wants, which is to create fear in the population which can be exploited for the government's gain. But I should not say "the government" because it's really the shadow government which pulls the strings of the government we see presented to us as our own, which could not care less about the public's greater interests and continuously lies to the public to forward their own agendas.
     
  10. Moonglow181

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    I am disturbed by the two links you put here and they make me want to scream.......:(
     
  11. *Yogi*

    *Yogi* Resident Racist

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    Isis keeps Americans on edge buying weapons and ammo 'just in case'. They are camel fuckers who tuck tail, hide their faces, and will claim responsibility for anything to keep the status que. As one look to france, who in reality has is it coming and this is karma kicking back, look the other way, more happening elsewhere!
    The French have always bitched out at the last second after America would commit and or the UN! They started a lot of shit, WE have had to finish! To each their own, long time coming!
     
  12. Gongshaman

    Gongshaman Modus Lascivious

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    Ha, they should have left Gadaffi alone.

    Yeah the US shouldn't have fucked with a lot of shit...

    http://www.lrb.co.uk/v33/n22/hugh-roberts/who-said-gaddafi-had-to-go

    "The overthrow of Gaddafi & Co was far from being a straightforward revolution against tyranny, but the West’s latest military intervention can’t be debunked as being simply about oil.
    Presented by the National Transitional Council (NTC) and cheered on by the Western media as an integral part of the Arab Spring, and thus supposedly of a kind with the upheavals in Tunisia and Egypt, the Libyan drama is rather an addition to the list of Western or Western-backed wars against hostile, ‘defiant’, insufficiently ‘compliant’, or ‘rogue’ regimes: Afghanistan I (v. the Communist regime, 1979-92)
    Iraq I (1990-91), the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia (over Kosovo, 1999)
    Afghanistan II (v. the Taliban regime, 2001) and Iraq II (2003), to which we might, with qualifications, add the military interventions in Panama (1989-90)Sierra Leone (2000) and the Ivory Coast (2011).
    An older series of events we might bear in mind includes the Bay of Pigs (1961), the intervention by Western mercenaries in the Congo (1964), the British-assisted palace coup in Oman in 1970 and – last but not least – three abortive plots, farmed out to David Stirling and sundry other mercenaries under the initially benevolent eye of Western intelligence services, to overthrow the Gaddafi regime between 1971 and 1973 in an episode known as the Hilton Assignment."

    We gotta stop fucking with other country's... before its too late?
     
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  13. newbie-one

    newbie-one one with the newbiverse

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    Iraq II clearly was about oil, with some bullshit about freedom thrown in.

    The others have at least some level of justification, imho.
     
  14. *Yogi*

    *Yogi* Resident Racist

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    When they were able to cross that 'invisible' line, they found exactly what they were there for years previous. The wmd's were there, money plays a big factor and securing the oil wells was first!
     
  15. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    Saddam was more or less given the OK to invade Kuwait. Prior to Saddam invading Kuwait, the Iraqis were told the US had no position in regard to Iraq vs. Kuwait. Kuwait was drilling into Iraq's oil, and this was the source of conflict between the two neighboring countries.

    Iraq II was about more than just oil (how many bases does the US have there now??) -- it was about setting up shop over there and creating a strategic base for future military operations in that region.

    Afghanistan was about opium. It had nothing to do with some bullshit about the Taliban. Afghanistan was 110% about drugs.

    They're all about imperialism and taking over that region of the map using terrorism as the justification to wage terror on these countries, much like we accuse terrorists of waging terror here. And of course there is more to it than just that, because terrorism is being used to change society here and abroad as well using perpetual fear to usher in draconian laws, an Orwellian surveillance state, and the militarization of the police. Many of the people reading this have no doubt already accepted this as normal and probably even good.

    I am a conspiracy theorist, yet nobody wants to even question whether the war on terror is based on fact, or simply irrational fear spread via the corporate media to manipulate public opinion.

    I guess I would rather be a conspiracy theorist than have my head buried in the dirt. I am not saying this in reference to you, Newbie, but rather people in general who are content to never question authority.
     
  16. Vanilla Gorilla

    Vanilla Gorilla Go Ape

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    Geezus H QYst

    Within 48 hrs theres already the nutjob conspiracy vid up?

    Therent arent enough facepalms
     
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  17. themnax

    themnax Senior Member

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    someone who wants everyone to be unthinkingly angry at each other, that would be my guess. someone or some several or some many.
    friday the 13th massocer? doesn't that sound like something to do with organized crime?
     
  18. mallyboppa

    mallyboppa Senior Member

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    Which Government are you talking about ? Would the American Government Need the Permission of the French Government To kill a lot of French People or are you talking about " The secret World Government "
    Thats Behind 911 , The London Bombings , Israel , ET , Area 61 , Bigfoot and the Loch ness monster ?

    Do you Believe man landed on the Moon ?
     
  19. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    I am talking about the secret government that is behind most of the governments of the world, be it the US government, the British government, or the French government. The War on Terror is part of a global agenda, so America isn't the only country that is involved. If you don't think governments have waged terrorism on their own people, look into Operation Gladio, which was conducted in countries throughout Europe from the 1960s to the 1980s and resulted in scores of deaths.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Gladio
     
  20. mallyboppa

    mallyboppa Senior Member

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    You Believe There is a secret Government that Rules The World ??

    Would that be a Democratically Elected government or Just a Bunch of people that Decided they dont like the way the other Governments are Run so they Took over . Do the other governments Pay for this service or do they do it for free?

    How long has this "secret Government " been in charge of things , And why Dont we all know about it

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    Oh I get why we never heard about it Because its a Secret One ;)
    Who Told you about it Then ?
     
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