Why are Christians such homophobes?

There is no evidence to support that. The only relationship Christ might have had was with Mary Magdalene, but there isn't any evidence to support that either. In any event, even if he did have a lover, it wouldn't change anything, if you are a Christian you beleive Christ was both 100% man and god, remember, he was a man too.

 

Then why did you cite it as an example?

Huh? I don't understand what you're trying to say. Who said it would "change anything" if he did?

 

Abbadabba,


Your futile attempt at biblical exegesis is pitiful. Check out:

http://www.cornerstonemag.com/pages/show_page.asp?151

As for homosexuality being "harmless," see:

http://www.leaderu.com/stonewall/issues/tomschmidt.html

 

It's just pure speculation, and I think it would be more likely than Christ being gay.

No one did, but no doubt some people would question weather he was truly god or not if he had a lover.

 

I'm a "Christian"...Well, I dunno...I have Christian Beliefs, but don't think when asked by a "Christian" they would call me a "Christian"...But I'm not a homophobe...And apparently, a lot of Methodists aren't either...Hmmm ::shrug::

 

It would be an insult to any person who was capable of simple reason to even momentarially consider Jesus as gay. His father condemned it, and He was a follower of His father.

How did you all get on Jesus as gay anyway, when the topic is about Christian hatred of homosexuality? Which, BTW, is bull since there exist many "churches" that are homosexual approving as well as many that are homosexual "Christian churches". Why, I ask again, does no one condemn the jewish religion or the muslams or any of the other religions that are against homosexuality? How has Christian bashing become such a favorit past time among people?

 

If the Christian God exists, I don't think it would approve much of your use of filthy language, blatant anti-semitism, and graphic descriptions of homosexual sex acts either...but that doesn't stop you from doing it.

Someone merely mentioned it as a theory and we were just considering whether or not it was plausible. I think it is. That's not to say that he definitely was gay, just that it isn't an implausible theory.

Why do you have the word churches in quotation marks? Do you view them as something less valid than your own church? What church do you attend that approves of your descriptions of "shoving dicks in hairy shitholes" or your denial of the Holocaust?

Most of the people that visit this board are Americans or Europeans, and therefore they're faced with more Christian homophobia on a daily basis than Jewish or Muslim homophobia. If I lived in Israel or Saudi Arabia, I'd probably be more likely to take issue with that.

 

You "dont think", and that is one of the biggest problems with your posts. You "dont think" before you make them. Your only interest is winning an unwinable argument. And this shows in your 2nd statement in regards to Jesus being gay. I showed you by simple common sense that it is rediculous to even assume such a thing and you still want to argue that Jesus might be gay.

I use the word churches in " " because they abviously accept the teachings of man above God, therefore I think thier "churches" are blasphemies and not religions of God.

My language? If it is wrong then God and I will settle that score when it is to be settled. You and I wont settle it; me and God will. Besides this is a topic concerning Christians in general, not me as a Christian. Swallow that one, deep throat.

 

You showed nothing of the kind. All you did was say that it was "disrespectful." I never said there was ironclad evidence that Jesus was gay; I just said that it was a possibility especially when you examine his life.

Then why can't you accept that God will settle the score with homosexuals if there's one that needs to be settled? Why do you insist on persecuting them? What makes their sins any worse than yours?

 

Just because there is something written in the bible it does not mean it is certainly right,the people who wrote the bible were not God,they had there own opinions and in those days it was considered to be a huge sin.

 

Agreed. Even if the Christian God actually spoke to them and they didn't mean to put their own opinions into the Bible, there's a very good chance that they'd be unable to understand what he meant and so they'd misinterpret him.

 

"Why are Christians such homophobes?" is the title of this thread. I ask, "Why are non-Christians and gays such Christianphobes?

abbadabbado:

Pay attention to my posts and the meaning of same. Jesus IS the son of GOD. He loves and respects GODS word. GODS Word is against homosexuality! Sorry, person. I will not argue against God who created me and His Son who gave me to him. So, (one more for me and God to settle), kiss my ass, fag boy. You are not qualified to talk, teach, or preach against my God or my Savior. ONLY Christians know God as I do; Cowards know Him as you do know Him not. As I have said before, I am WARRIOR. My fight is for God. If you were here before me this very moment, I would punk slap you. Your desire isn't to question Christians about why they are agaisnt queer ways, your desire is to cause hatred towards Chritians. You are a self-serving piece of trash. You hate Jesus because He hates your ways. Leave this topic alone. Go peacefully among your brethern and suffer the consequences.

From my partner: Had God wanted homosexuals on this planet He would have created ONLY one sex. Here is one more for me and God to settle: Fuck you stupid.

 

As I've said before, I have nothing against Christianity in general. I do have a problem with the particular brand of Christianity practiced by Jerry Falwell, Fred Phelps, and you.

You didn't answer my question. If you claim that you'll settle your score with God later on and you don't want to be bothered about using filthy language, denying the holocaust, and comparing yourself to Jesus, why won't you allow homosexuals that same freedom?

I never said I was gay.

You are such a hypocrite. I am very glad that most Christians aren't as stupid as you. I'll ask you once more: What makes a homosexual's sins worse than your sins?

Your particular brand of Christianity DESERVES the hatred it receives. Now go don your white sheet and burn some crosses, you piece of Alabama white trash.

Again, I never said I was gay. You just assumed that.

By that logic, if God wanted nazis like yourself on this planet, he would've just tattooed the swastika to your forehead himself.

 

True, as you say Jew and Muslim "homophobia" are not on a daily baisis addressed. However through the jewish media it has become acceptable to be pro-fag. They are not pro-gay, but they do like Christians to be, because it fullfills thier agenda to destroy Christians. I would not bring this up except that the jew hates Jesus and will do all that is required to turn man against Him. Think about it. If you had control of mind controling things such as the media (newspapers, television, etc.), whose agenda would you promote?

 

You are such a dumbass. It's really sad that people like you still exist in this day and age. When I started this thread, I expected to hear from some homophobes and mainstream-conservative Christians...I guess I just didn't expect anyone to be so openly prejudiced against anyone a little different from them.

I don't know why I ever broke my promise to myself not to fuel the fire of your hatred. Sooner or later your hate for everyone who isn't a heterosexual (white?) Protestant Christian will consume you.

I'm done talking to you. Responses from non-nazi-morons are still welcomed and encouraged.

 

I wouldn't exactly say that the Jewish people nowadays hate Jesus, rather that they don't believe he is the Messiah. (except for Messianic Jews) It does say that during the end times, when Jesus returns to the Mount of olives, that the Jewish people will mourn in severe repentence. ("They will look on me, the one they have pierced, and they will mourn for him as one mourns for an only child, and grieve bitterly for him as one grieves for a firstborn son" (Zechariah 12:10) And their prayers will not be forsaken. ( "On that day a fountain will be opened to the house of David and the inhabitants of Jerusalem, to cleanse them from sin and impurity") (Zechariah 13:1)

As far as abbadabba's quote about some Christian groups, I will agree with that. Not every person claiming to be a Christian really is. There are many false prophets in this world.

 

Guess what? You "expected to hear from some homophobes and mainstream-conservative Christians...". You got that. They all tried to agree with you. They are what is known as Judea-Christians. Then you got a drop extra. You got a God loving, Bible reading, Fuck You warrior for God named Warrior to chastise you and bring you down below the rocks from which you crawled. Every Christian who looks at this thread KNOWS who is here for God and Christianity. And they know who is here to destroy the words of God and the works of Jesus. Go on and live in your ways of the jew who guides you, suffer in hell with them as you have made your choice. Take down as many as you can. But there are those who will get on thier knees and God will send them Angels and they will be guided from you. You in yourself are a sin.
I think it was you who ask in an earlier post where was the bloody sword that that person carried for God. It is here. It is in the words that are said in defense of God and in offense of those against Him. I am that sword. Through my words, through my deeds, I will always be that sword. I told that person that they knew who I am, now they can not deny it. I am the sword. I speek in your tongue: I say, "Fuck you".

"Responses from non-nazi-morons are still welcomed and encouraged."
Only "morons" will you reply too? Only if they are not "nazi". Yes you are qualified for that debate. Barely.

 

"I wouldn't exactly say that the Jewish people nowadays hate Jesus, rather that they don't believe he is the Messiah."

Don't assume nothing. Jews proclaim in thier evil Talmud that Jesus is burning in a sea of excrement (shit). They say that the Virgin Mary was a harlot, a whore. Educate yourself before you pick a side.

 

Please do not renounce anyone's religion. I'm sure most who cry out the Lord's name with pure love will find him, regardless of what they call him or the customs in which they choose to worship. In the end, it boils down to the same thing, one God. Half the time we forget it because we are caught up in the specifics of our individual ways to worship Him, you'd be surprised to find that the main point of the majority of religions is the same...No one is purly wrong or right...the only one who knows is the Lord...

...so please do not put someone down for their religion...all that does is make you hateful...and in the end not following what you preach...

::end of transmission::

 

Levictus also says to stone your son to death if he disobeys you, that a week after a woman's menstrual cycle, everything she touches is dirty. Levictus says a lot of things, I don't even bother with it, because they're kkind of WAY OVER THE EDGE.



Yeah, two people who love eachother gettign married is wrong, but it's okay to marrry for money, a 20-year-old skank marrying an 80-year-old billlionaire is fine, 100 000 drunks in Vegas is just peachy-keen I think the bible says it was wrong because back then they thought it was just a lust. It's not lust. I have a partner right now (who is female), and I don't want to go "below the waist" at least until we're married. Which we will be. It's far from lust, it's two people who love each other. They used to ban interracial marriages as well. I think the whole thing is just friggin retarded, and I don't think an ever-loving Lord would want two people who love each other to be treated like crap by the government.