Why Are So Many People So Less Giving With Sex?

It's normal female behavior in long term relationships, once they've popped a couple of kids (maybe yours, maybe not) you're just kept around for the added income.

 

I think the word you want is 'twisted' rather than 'different'.

 

 

How is wanting sex twisted?

 

in every definition of cougar i've ever heard, the cougar was the older mate, and only if it's a female. so basically an older woman who goes after younger guys.

i've actually heard more specific definitions requiring at least a 15 year age difference as well.

 

 

Well it doesn't matter. The point is I will only be alking to older women from now on.

 

Reading your posts about how you view sex it sounds to me like you were sexually abused and don't understand why peoples boundaries aren't the same as your own. For example you openly talk about having sex to "Help people out" even though you don't enjoy it. That is red flag language to me. You probably don't see it as such because you have been groomed and are repeating the phrases used to justify what is essentially sexual abuse. In your case it seems to be particularly insidious as it has been presented as "This isn't fucked the rest of societies views are fucked" and having the word "Feminism" attached to it. You might not see it now as you are young and still close to it.

Either that or you're a total troll.

C/S,
Rev J

 

 

I'm not going to argue with you because you have already made up your mind. Just know I am fine and functional and don't agree with all of their views I am happy with how I grew up for the most part.

 

Oh, yeah

How different do you think those views are

You were raised by feminists.....so you are incapable of your own decision making or something

Couldnt it be you root around simply because you are oversexed?

 

^ depends on definition. not if you go by the 15 year rule.

 

I am perfectly capable of critical thinking. Other than a little sexual frustration, which is normal for a guy my age, I'm perfectly happy and healthy.

 

Are you sure. Critical thinking in regards to ones self, no one is capable of that, objectively anyway


I am speaking as a guy that didnt grow up in a cult or whatever you want to call it, grew up in a mindnumbingly average middle class suburb, nothing out of the ordinary at all

And yet was rooting around like crazy, from, well I wont tell you how young, at a rate far higher than anyone else, even compared to other gay guys

I've heard every theory in the book, but It was just about ending up in that top percentile of being oversexed / high libido


If you hadnt grown up in that group, had grown up in a normal suburban setting.....and still things turned out the same, what then?

The only way you could really know is if you had the chance to live both lives and compare

What if growing up with feminists has had absolutely nothing to do with it?

 

Well now you are just asking "nature vs. nurture". Which both are contributing factors. As far as "would I be different?" I can't know that. But if you are asking me to guess, than no. If I had grown up being toxicly masculine I probably wouldn't have gay sex.

Like my first instinct with you seems like you are nice, but in pain. If I knew you a little better and you were closer to my own age I'd have sex with you if I thought it would help. That is just how I think.

 

Those "Red Flag Words " again.

It's weird because I've essentially heard your rap numerous times over the years and it almost always is coming from a woman brought up in some type of weird religion where she is passed around between the men like a joint. Told that she is "Helping them out" by having sex with them. If she doesn't want to she is being selfish etc. This is the first time that I've heard this same rap from a man. The script flip with a link to feminism seems to work off what seems to be the current trend of "Strong Women" in our society that if they exhibit the same exploitative practices that men traditionally have that it will somehow not be exploitative. To steal a line from Linda Lovelace, "Gloria Steinham and Andrea Dworkin made thousands of dollars retelling my story and didn't give me a dime. At least I got $250 for the blowjob in 'Deep Throat'."

C/S,
Rev J

 

I think that is a gross oversimplification. I am not going to go into the ins and outs of how I was raised exactly. I doesn't matter though since you don't know the exact cultural significance anyway.

 

And here comes the cult language. Rather than trying to explain it just tell me I don't know or understand the exact cultural significance. I don't think it's a gross oversimplification at all. I've hung out with pagans of various forms including Wiccans, Satanists, followers of various eastern traditions, and native spiritualities. I've also known plenty of people who've gotten out of cults and heard the stories of numerous people who were abused in the name of "Spirituality". It seems like every few years there is another "Spiritual Leader" who is brought up on charges. And usually they will say some bullshit about "Cultural Significance" in their defense.

Not to sound like an ageist prick but I have t-shirts that are older than you. When I say I've heard your rap numerous times I have right down to the line about "Cultural Significance". I'm an adult survivor myself and I'll make a very real estimation that about 3 out of 5 of all of the women that I've been with have been either raped or molested. Even though I'm not a trained expert I've heard the story enough times from enough different people that I can fairly reliably recognize the signs so don't piss on my leg and tell me that it's raining.

C/S,
Rev J

 

I think he is talking about the opposite of what you are thinking though

I get the impression there werent any adult males in this group, or very few, and then easily manageable ones

Passed around in a cult of women, and you are telling him you empathize with the three out of five women .....because only they can be victims

And yes I do remember your history, which makes it even stranger



Despite what everyone wants to believe girls or straight guys, whether it male or female abuser, they dont get victimized the same way as when its young guys with girls/women. He doesnt really get what you are talking about. He doesnt really like gay sex, because he is not gay, in that he is not really attracted to guys....but because of his past is already bored of.....

 

He in lies the difficulty with religion. The Reverend seeks to differentiate him self and his religion from others. All religions no matter what type including Christians, Muslims, pagans no matter what the belief have people who uses it to abuse. Children and women. Here in England we've had wave after wave of schools run by religion being exposed for child molestation. They are worse than cults as they prey on the young .

So often we hear the sanctimonious whimperings of the religious saying its not my religion. How can it be that people of a certain sex or sexuality should not be priests or religious leaders. Its all just buncombe.

The main reason I don't believe is due eduction and research the one thing every religion believes is theirs is the right one. Is it not simpler to just understand there all wrong and no such thing exists. Its the figment of mankind with an over active mind or often altered state of mind that comes up with a religion. We simply do not want to believe we are the same as a common ant , when we die we turn into soil only our memory lives with others.

 

Actually I was using my experiences to explain my history and how it relates to his experiences. Abuse knows no gender. The experiences that he has described are have a parallel to the experiences of various women who essentially say the same thing that he has only the gender of the abuser and abused have been switched. Since I've heard the rap before and have my own experiences in the whole abuse realm I brought that up essentially to point out that I have experience and knowledge of what I speak.

At his age I was in my own weird state of denial. I wasn't denying what had happened to me I was denying that it had any effect. I realize just as different peoples experiences are different they coping mechanisms are also different.

C/S,
Rev J