Why are there no new books of the Bible?

Look guys.....

It's obvious that God is a vengeful and vicious God when he doesn't get his way. Nobody (well, I'm not) is arguing anything different.

When someone says "Why does he say this? Or , why does he do that? That doesn't seem very compassionate."

Well...... it's obvious that God cast all sorts of terrible things towards those that don't do what he wants. He's not this gentle God who just lets everybody off the hook. In fact, God has no real concern for our physical pain when he needs to make a point. Why would he need to acknowledge our physical pain. We do the same with lesser species.

EXCEPT <--A real big except

If you're on his side. Then he protects you. He fends for you. He listens to your pain, and responds.

If you're not on his team, then you're not praying. If you're not praying, he can't/won't address you're needs, because he can't hear you. Or chooses not to hear you..... I dunno. He's God. He does what he wants.

C'mon, he's God. He can do what he wants.

Who knows, maybe he's a new/young God who is still a compulsive child. I personally don't think so, but who knows?

My point is. He made the rules, along with EVERY FRICKEN OTHER THING IN THE EVERYWHERE. Including time, light, gravity... everything. And we really have no choice in the matter.

Well, we do have one choice. God or satan. Pretty cut and dried. You choose God, you follow his rules and he protects you and guarantees you a cubby hole of your own in Heaven (the rebuilt earth). Oh yeah, there's that whole LIVE FOREVER THING.

I personally, ain't messin with him.


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Doesn't that undermine the morality of it though? Isn't it better to do what's right because you know it's right, rather than because you're afraid of what will happen if you do what you'd like to do?

Genuine, non-rhetorical question, btw.

 

There are numerous quotes as to the fear of God in the bible. I really don't think God cares what works. As long as it works. Though, I'm sure that he would prefer not to need it. It's a war, you know?

This is just the point that I was trying to make. "But doesn't...." "It seems to me...." "etc." makes no difference. He make the rules. If we want in, we follow them.

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Okay, "this guy wasn't acting in God's name, he was just a nutcase" there is that better? But that's pretty much what I've saying all a long.

Also Christians do not do God's work on an impulse, Christians do God's work after careful thought and reflection. I don't know who you consider to be the example you're using to describe Christians but I seriously doubt that God or Jesus would consider them Christians.

 

So you think a loving God would leave his children in the dark about what he's doing and why. And the fact that he doesn't makes you sick. Interesting.

 

Just for reference sake this Forum is Christianity and not Sanctuary. In Sanctuary you can feel free to quote Scripture but doing so in the Christianity forum like you just did can get you booted.

 

Oops, sorry. Won't happen again.

But I never knew.


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People who say they not only know that god exists but that they also are able to comprehend his mind must be enlightened indeed...

 

There are three things being spoken of here.

One, knowing what God thinks, God has kindly told us what he thinks on many different subjects and so because of that we can know what he thinks.

Two, knowing his will, God has again, kindly told us what his will is and so because of that we can know his will.

Three, is what you just mentioned, being able to comprehend his mind. No one is able to comprehend his mind and that would even include Jesus. Because of his telling us what he thinks and what his will is we can get a glimpse of his mind and even try to bring our minds into alignment with his but no one is able to fully comprehend his mind.

 

I'm glad you find it interesting. I really don't.

 

I can only speak for the branch of Catholicism my family is involved in, but as I understood it, you get into Heaven if you love God. Simply fearing Hell, or fearing forceful retribution in THIS world, is not enough, no.

 

People get booted for preaching, not for citing references. While the rule may not be specific on that, that is, I believe, the intention.

 

You'll argue about anything won't you?

Here read it for yourself:
"There are now NEW RULES for this forum as a result of it being abused by fundamentalist Christian recruiting agents for their own agenda.

NO PROSELITIZING! We don't want to hear why WE need to follow Jesus. You like him, fine, keep it to yourself. We are not sheep around here, get used to it!

NO WITNESSING! We don't want to hear about your personal experiences with Jesus. We don't need to know how he "saved" you. That's not what this forum is about.

NO BIBLE QUOTES! Sorry but we don't allow spam on this site. Quoting over and over from some ancient text, is SPAM! You want to advertise a book, take out a banner ad!

Anyone not following these rules will be banned."

 

Is this the way you think it should be?

 

I'd rather say, the opposite is obvious. So far we see humans ONLY reap the consequences of their OWN mistakes, selfishness and greed. If GOD started to do what you're telling above, almost ALL would be dead now. At least, all them "evildoers", you know. But they don't die out! They rule!

 

It's OK, Hoatzin. It is quite possible, that Russell's quotation is taken a bit out of context. But the thought is there and it is clear; so Russell thought about it. The Bible doesn't say, however, that EVERYONE will see the apocalyptic events in their true meaning. Jesus said people will be "marrying and given in marriage, they will build, sell, eat drink ..." just like they did in Noah's time, until the moment Noah entered into the ark, and the Flood came. Even though Noah told them why he was building his ark (for 50 years!), they "didn't think". Most likely, ridiculed him; some maybe philosophized... And then the rain started, but the ark was already closed.

And yet Jesus also gave to understand, that those signs will be clearly visible "like lightning is visible from one end of the sky to another". So the quotations I shared just show how the signs are visible to many, yet no so many take it to heart and act accordingly.

 

I agree with you here, but only partially. There something other than mans machinations at work here. And the faster it accelerates, the faster still it accelerates.

None the less. God has punished and/or allowed these punishments to take place myriad times. I do believe God has a hand, either passively or activly, in all things good or bad. He's even in control of the red guy. satan couldn't just go and screw up Job. He had to ask permission for that pleasure. Kinda like satan were one of his unwitting tools.

Giving me the impressing that God is completely in control, and guiding the whole bit towards an ultimate end. Using whatever it takes to make that happen.

Without the evildoers, the motion stops. So he kinda needs em right now. If, for nothing else, then for the contrast right?

Well, he did once. And realized his mistake. Said he would never do it again and gave us the rainbow to mark this solemn promise.

He's kinda bound by that solemn promise. So he hasta leave the machinations up to us.

But these terrible things, which have been escalating of late, have to happen. That's cast in stone. It's gonna get worse as well. And it all (persecution, pestilence, beheading, starvation, despair, war....) just hasta happen. No getting around it.

The only thing open to debate as far as I can tell is---> Who's gettin on the bus?


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Well, it is Satan himself pretending, he can be "god on his own". This lie he conveyed to Adam and Eve, remember? We don't know what convinces him of such thing EVER being possible, for he obviously believes it... The book says he's an angel, and their knowledge of spiritual matters is superior to ours... Obviously, God never promised anyone he'd be successful on his own.

But you remember the questions Satan posed with regard to Job?
"Is it FOR NOTHING that Job has feared God??"... -- alleging selfish motives in Job's righteousness.
"...everything A MAN has he will give on behalf of his soul" -- this time implying that ANY human creature will cling to his life at any cost, given such be the issue.

Yet God, obviously, believed otherwise and let the world see the truth. Job kept God's side to the end, even though he knew nothing of the dispute mentioned above. Even though he misunderstood some of God's motives. This also shows, that Adam and Eve's taking Satan's side wasn't the show of general nature of all humans.

So, it is not God who is vengeful and vicious. It is the situation, when everyone is challenging God's law and his right to rule at every step they make. We all being his creatures, we stand absolutely in NEED of him for our life. Yet when we question his rules at every step, this turns the world upside down. Why would God tolerate such situation to exist? Obviously, with one and only visible reason in view: that all could see whether it makes any sense to rebel against God's rule and his laws. Even when it seems to someone that he "knows better"...

 

Introducing the lost gospel of Mark, in it Jesus possibly has sex with a boy.

http://rotten.com/library/religion/...truction/new-testament/secret-gospel-of-mark/

 

...and he might have .... Ummmm...... cut his toenails, or ... maybe he watched a cartoon with him. Or just maybe he did what it says....

"taught him the mystery of the Kingdom of God."

Nice try though. I understand the contrarian nature. I'm one too.


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