Why Atheism Is A Religion

Discussion in 'Agnosticism and Atheism' started by ChinaCatSunflower02, Dec 10, 2015.

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  1. TheSamantha

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    Well with those definitions, Buddhism isn't a religion at all, which it arguably is. Same with Satanism and most of them would probably say it Is in fact a religion.

    Strangely enough, dictionary.com has the best definition. I don't see why it can't apply to atheism.
     
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  2. Asmodean

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    Ok, thanks for explaining again. You are entitled to your opinion naturally. But you know, maybe the fact that it appears pretty much no one comes to the same conclusion should tell you something. Not just atheists mind you, but pretty much no one else.
     
  3. Asmodean

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    It can, when atheists actually create a belief system that fits the definition. As been pointed out, if the supreme court ruled it as such and those atheists have indeed a church and other requirements a lot more people can acknowledge that that particular form of atheism can be defined as a religion. But it still doesn't make atheism on itself a religion. Because it simply isn't one. Atheism on itself is nothing more than one simple belief or assertion.
     
  4. ChinaCatSunflower02

    ChinaCatSunflower02 Senior Member

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    Yeah, no one except other Atheists, the Supreme Court, and other non-Atheists on this forum...

    As if majority means truth anyway. If majority means truth, then God exists, as there are more Christians than Atheists in the world.
     
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  5. Moonglow181

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    My closing statement is that if people want to call atheism a religion, so be it. that is their choice, right, perogative, etc......
    I am agnostic, free thinker who is open to any possibility until proven otherwise.....and that is not a religion. i am not religious in any way.....
    spriritual , yes, religious, no.


    and as i have said before somewhere.....atheism is too strong a stance...how can you be against something you do not recognize anyway.....i don't believe in unicorns...i am not against them.....I just do not recognize them as being any truth i accept yet, as their existence has not been proven to me.....

    i am not against peter pan or any other made up character, either.....
     
  6. ChinaCatSunflower02

    ChinaCatSunflower02 Senior Member

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    Fine, perhaps it's more arguable to say that Atheism is becoming a Religion more and more, one day at a time, than to say that it IS a Religion. It's simply making its transition :)
     
  7. Asmodean

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    I ment of course pretty much no one that took part in this discussion on here.

    I'm not saying the majority is always right, but it often says a lot if you are the only one insisting it is so.

    The majority of christians in the world might disagree with you as well that atheism is a religion. Most on here who actually cared to give their view do.


    It makes more sense than insisting atheism is a religion because of that one simple assertion that there is no god and some atheists are rather evangelistical about that.
     
  8. ChinaCatSunflower02

    ChinaCatSunflower02 Senior Member

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    Well I'm on an Atheist forum. Didn't expect the majority to agree.

    As far as Christians, not all, but many of them also agree that Atheism itself is its own belief system and Religion.
     
  9. ChinaCatSunflower02

    ChinaCatSunflower02 Senior Member

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    Here is my final argument:

    Every Religion has a core belief/beliefs that all people who follow it share in common. These core beliefs may stem into a lot of other beliefs and notions that may vary from person to person, but the core beliefs are only a couple at most, or even just 1, that defines the Religion for what it is.

    It's not what you believe in, ​it's collective belief itself on an existential concept(s), that forms a Religion

    Take Christianity for example. There are lots of different branches and ideas and disputes within Christianity. But ALL OF IT is based on one singular belief, and that's that Jesus Christ is our Savior and the Son of God, sent from God "Himself". You can disagree about a lot within Christianity, but if you don't believe in that, then you're simply not a Christian.

    Every other Religion you could also break down to a handful of beliefs at most, but more often than not can stem from one singular belief. This is why the Churches are built, this is what the ethics are centered on, this is where the faith comes from, this is why it guides people's lives.

    Atheism is absolutely no different. It's a particular core belief that shapes its followers' world-view, motivations and opinions, ethics, ideas on what the Universe is, etc. There's even the element of Faith, and that's that because there is no evidence, there is a certain faith that this means there is no God. They don't actually KNOW for certain one way or the other, but they are concluding and HAVE FAITH in the fact that there likely isn't a God if there is no sound evidence for one.

    Not to mention the Missionary billboards, building of Churches, Atheists I have cited that have written books on why Atheism is a Religion, and ruling by the Supreme Court that Atheism is in fact a Religion.

    I will also include at the very least that if Atheism isn't yet a Religion, it is moving in the direction of becoming one. Some Atheists are already comfortable with calling it one, and I will make my own assertion that those that don't feel it is a Religion has more to do with simply not wanting it to be a Religion ​t​han anything else. An example of this is MeAgain's choosing to soon close this discussion because "it's going nowhere" even though it has over 3,000 views and more than 600 posts. But in MeAgain's mind, who is an Atheist, there is nothing to discuss. This reeks of bias.
     
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  10. Moonglow181

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    Well,,, some may do take things to an extreme.....as in any group.....I have never known any of these types, though, personally....The ones I have known have been free thinkers...maybe they should not call themselves atheists anymore....idk....why they do.
     
  11. tikoo

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    ^ o * l l = x

    Atheism reasons its identity . The above equation does not .
     
  12. guerillabedlam

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    Personal definitions might be much of the problematic issue in this discussion, however this post overall is Amazing!
     
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  13. Gongshaman

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    They can call me a Heathen instead.

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  14. ChinaCatSunflower02

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    Atheism is still becoming a Religion if it's not one already. Atheists themselves admit to this. Just none on this forum. And all of those definitions are incorrect, because Buddhism is a Religion and has no Deity.

    Jainism is another Religion that denies a Deity. There are more I'm sure.
     
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    To get to last page post.
     
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    ChinaCatSunflower02 Senior Member

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    I think it's funny that, all the thugs and criminals and whatever.. when they're sitting on death row right before they die they all sudden want to get religious. I hear that on death row 9/10 prisoners are all ultra religious. That's because they fear what's coming after death. It's funny because these people won't turn to God until it's too late, until it's time for you to fucken die.
     
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  18. Gongshaman

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    Why?
     
  19. guerillabedlam

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    I thought you were done :D That ego of yours couldn't let it go?

    You're incorrect by the way, deities are described in Buddhism.

     
  20. ChinaCatSunflower02

    ChinaCatSunflower02 Senior Member

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    As the saying goes, "There's no Atheists in foxholes"
     
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