Why Atheism Is A Religion

I don't consider myself theist, atheist, or agnostic anymore. I am just sentient, existing, with no thought for my own personal well-being, whether it be to save me from Hell or to save me from stupidity Information streams into my brain, but there is no personality there to decode it. There is just the idea of a brain, devoid of all religion, devoid of all philosophy. The idea of a brain, and no judgment made to whether said brain is holy or ordinary.

 

As for what I've underlined, are you saying that religious fanaticism existed before religion itself? Or is it just an inevitability? Where does religious fanaticism come from then?

Obviously, religion came first. That's like asking "what came first? Sports or sports fanaticism?" There's extremism in every area of life. There's guns, and then there's gun fanaticism.

This is simply an ever-receding pocket of ignorance... If God is wherever you want him to be (as it's clear he's apparently in many different places judging by the responses to this thread), then this is simply a "theory of anything" which chooses to place the man behind the curtain in a more and more difficult place to sniff out as the ages go on.

The more that Science will discover that everything is One Consciousness, the more that this will make sense, though Materialist Science will resist it with every last ounce of effort. Asking where God is is like asking where Space is. Everywhere and yet nowhere specifically. In this realm, but not limited to it. Why can't people find it in this reality? Because they're looking for some cartoonish guy on a throne in the clouds. What does Space or Consciousness look like? It's impossible to say, and yet, it's there.

 

It sounds as if you're trying to employ the scientific method to confirm your own personal beliefs. What will your role be in these discoveries?

Your analogy about asking where space is falls short of making any sense. Once again, you've chosen to provide little more than "you don't know what to look for/you're not willing to think of it this way" as an argument.

 

I don't personally have any interaction with Scientists at the moment, so my role is my own personal path. However there are some Scientists who have the same view as me.

Atheists are basing their lack of belief in God on their image of Christianity's picture of God the majority of the time. I would call God a non-personal Consciousness, so I feel that it can take on any form, including Christianity's picture, but isn't limited to that, just as me and you have Consciousness and yet we are different forms.

 

And this moment is equal to this eternal Consciousness, in my opinion.

Also, how do you define illusion?

 

Talk about bias, man.

If you actually go to the East, you will realize that Buddhism as a whole is much more Religious than your Western Hipster interpretation of it is. I just watched something on WKAR about Buddhism earlier today actually, which went into great detail of this.

So only a Zen Atheist is correctly interpreting a Transcendental experience? There's absolutely no problem with externalizing a Transcendental experience and mythologizing it through symbolism. Whether it's Samadhi, Satori, Kundalini Awakening, Gnosis or anything else, a Transcendental experience is a Transcendental experience. Enough of this blather about how different forms of it other than Zen Atheism are "incorrectly interpreted".

Sounds a little one-sided. Sounds...a little bit like Christianity.

 

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Maybe he was talking mainly about his own opinion/view (which may be partially influenced by buddhism), or a certain variety of buddhism, instead of (his interpretation of) the buddhist religion as a whole? After all he seems to be trying to aswer your question. Where is he getting all 'hipster' like about it?

 

Well first off, his answer doesn't make sense.

How do you go from "form is illusion" to "what people believe in that I don't consider to be real is what illusion is"?

I think that the Western Atheists' latching on to Buddhism is rather Hipster when Buddhism itself is rather Religious. Atheists are free to mold stuff to their own beliefs, but at least acknowledge the Religiousness of Buddhism and maybe stop acting like it's not a Religion. That's just very Hipster to me.

 

Ok, thanks for explaining

I don't really agree, just because some people that are attracted to buddhism (wether they are atheist or not, or fit in the hipster category or not) see it as so different from other religions that they find it doesn't fit the term religion. I agree though that the claim that it is no religion at all because it is different from other religions seems mainly a way for the people who do it to feel better about themselves in some way. I mean nobody cares about it except themselves It is as useful as trying to portray atheism as a religion (not kidding really I don't see the point)

 

To me, Atheism is just another point of view. It's on equal grounds to every other religion. It's an ultimate say about the nature of reality, and they are as sure of themselves as Roman Catholics are. Atheism shouldn't be so focused on Religion if they are beyond Religion.

 

Yeah but you then ensue to imply that someone who has a belief in something different is illusion but maybe i misinterpreted.

 

Aren't the different forms merely like wearing different clothes? They don't define you, but they are still real.

 

Doesn't mean the clothes are illusory.

"The first gulp from the glass of Natural Sciences will turn you into an atheist, but at the bottom of the glass God is waiting for you." -Werner Heisenberg, Father of Quantum Mechanics

 

Here is yet another experiment done. Please drop the bias and read the full article. I tried to access the full study but my computer wouldn't take me to the page. It's referenced in the article. Maybe someone else will have better luck? I say this because I don't want it to seem that I'm just posting only a "New Age" source. http://www.nextext.org/2015/09/science-just-confirmed-wildest-implications-of-quantum-physics.html

 

Here is an interesting study done that shows how the rise of Atheism is actually an illusion...http://www.science20.com/writer_on_the_edge/blog/atheism_peaks_while_spiritual_groups_move_toward_convergence-156528