Why did God need to sacrifice Jesus to forgive sin?

How so. God created man in his own image and saw that it was good. God's children got the mistaken idea, and that is all it is, that they are unworthy. That somehow they had done the impossible which is to violate gods will. They dream a dream of separation and because the power of mind is great, the separation seems real, yet what god has enjoined, no man can put asunder.

The idea that to pronounce what is good and what is evil is good judgement
creates a colored background against which the true color of things cannot be seen. There is a simple teaching aid that I use to demonstrate what I am talking about.

Take a yellow piece of paper and call it mans judgement of the world. Then take a blue crayon, call it god's mark and draw some lines on the yellow paper. Even though the crayon is blue the mark will appear green and we had missed god's mark because we had judged it to be something else.

If god answers prayer and we have prayed for good things, why do you think good things do not always appear? It is not god's ineptitude of giving the good gifts to his children who ask for them, It is the view that man holds that prevents him from seeing what is right before his eyes.

How can I compare this generation, we played for you and you did not dance, we piped for you and you did not sing.


The eye is the lamp of the body. If the eye be sound the whole body will be full of light. If you recognize gods children as god created them, then the whole body will be full of light. If the light in you be darkness, that is if you think the truth is man is guilty, then how great the darkness

I have detected no increase in stature for your theory.

 

God's viewpoint is god's whether you agree with it or not. God is mans judge, man is not mans judge and is not god's judge.

Gods judgement is eternal life and the last judgement that wakes the dead, is ours, our final one, when we have seen gods children as god created them.

When we see christ, we shall be like him.

 

Only in comparison to yours.

 

That made me smile. I mean your theory is no more credulous than it was before.

I might add that what I have said about slander is demonstrably true.

 

Which seems more likely, that god was mistaken in his creations, or man has an authority problem, is confused about what is true?

 

Or no less so but in comparison to your "theory" it seems a beacon in a dark night.

Yes, you do seem to be demonstrating it.

 

You seem to think both is true.

 

That is your subjective impression, but you offer no rebuttal except for your imp-ression.

Take for example you falsely calling me a liar. No matter what the truth may be, and I had stated it, you have no way of apprehending that fact because the measure you give, is the measure you receive. If you judge you will feel judged even though you are not in fact judged.

 

Not at all and you didn't answer the question.

Forgiveness has taught me that we are still as god created us.

 

Your 'loss for a loss' justice is a black hole OWB.

Storch said you need to be challenged. I say you already are.

 

Since you are a liar, how could anyone falsely call you one?

 

Is that to pass as 'wit'?

 

Okay, this is what you said:

So does that mean you believe God created us to "slander each other", to "not appreciate the damning effects of our judgements" and to " insist on guilt and punishment"?

 

No, just the simple truth. The Dope is the one who said I falsely called him a liar, ask him to show you where I did so? If he can't then he's a liar isn't he?

 

As you judge, so you are judged. You are justified, by your words.
I am as god created me.

 

OWB:

It doesn't pass. thedopes words, no matter how they 'speak' to your reason, are his. His intent is made clear. He wishes you well. I might find a thousand of his sayings not to meet my own truth, and none of them would make him a liar.

 

No, we were created to create the good. Slander is a miscreant use of mind, it does not create it is only a bad dream. Slander does not in fact alter the truth of gods creations, it only makes it seem obscure. Only the thoughts you think with god are creative.

 

OWB,

When I asked you to address the contradiction, you claimed that there was no contradiction because God chooses to not foresee in some cases. That is all fine and well. But when asked to produce the source of this knowledge/information, you tell me, in so many words, that you are the source, the author of that knowledge.

There is evidence in the Bible that God became displeased with what he had created. There is no evidence in the Bible that that is because he chose to not foresee. Therefore, you made it up to tie up a loose end.

 

It doesn't pass? pass what?

Show me please where I falsely called the Dope a liar.

Till then, as I have already said, him saying I falsely called him a liar, makes him a liar and that has nothing to do with what "speaks" to my reason or anybody else's reason for that matter.

 

If we are as God created us you continue to say, then you are saying that God created us to do as we do and you say what we do is slander, so according to your beliefs God created us to slander and be judgmental. Did he also create us to think thoughts that are not his?