Why did God need to sacrifice Jesus to forgive sin?

Discussion in 'Christianity' started by HumanBeingIntellect, Sep 9, 2011.

  1. OlderWaterBrother

    OlderWaterBrother May you drink deeply Lifetime Supporter

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    You are the one blowing hot air and every time I call you on it you do so all the more.

    My original comment was made after a post in which everything in it was a twisting of scripture, so if you want specifics start with that.
     
  2. Dejavu

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    thedope:
    This is true.

    OWB, do you think Jesus needed to be killed? Yes? No?
     
  3. OlderWaterBrother

    OlderWaterBrother May you drink deeply Lifetime Supporter

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    And as I said to him my opinion is I don't know.
     
  4. Dejavu

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    That is not an opinion. Judging by everything avaliable to you, do you think Jesus needed to be killed?
     
  5. OlderWaterBrother

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    And as I said to the dope, my opinion is I don't know.
     
  6. Dejavu

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    Then you have no opinion, no interest in the matter.
     
  7. OlderWaterBrother

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    Really, I can't have the opinion, that I don't know? Who's opinion should get to find out if I know or not? Yours or maybe the dope's? [​IMG]
     
  8. thedope

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    He was laid in a tomb as if dead. He was seen, with wounds, after that event. Why are you certain he died of his wounds. He removed himself from view. Are you to insist now after all that christ must perish to fulfill the law?
    I'm aghast.

    I am saying there is no one who has not thought another clime might be better than the one they are in.

    Being is also potential.
     
  9. brainpain35

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    God didnt have to do this
    he did it to simply show his love for all of humanity
    so all of the sins that has been and will be committed could be washed away
    if we simply ask for his forgivness and ask him into our hearts
     
  10. OlderWaterBrother

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    You really like to drag things out don't you. Really what is the point in doing so. Why can't you just accept; "I don't know" as an answer and move on?
     
  11. thedope

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    What is your affection for christ, are you glad that he died?
     
  12. thedope

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    Who did what?
    Sins are forgiven as we forgive and as we do unto the least, we do also to him.
     
  13. brainpain35

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    that sounds like more of a trick question
    just to drag out a fight
    if you ask me God is still alive
    simple as that
    his human form isnt here anymore
    but yes i am more then glad he died for my sins personally
    and gave us all the chance to enter the gates of heaven
     
  14. Dejavu

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    thedope:
    Of course I don't believe he died because it was "foreseen". And he did not die of his love, I am sure of that. He died of being tortured to death. His resilience is really beside the point. One does not survive being killed, but one may certainly survive the attempt on ones life.
     
  15. Dejavu

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    OWB:
    To not have an opinion either way is not to have an opinion. Yet you are the one who purports to have an interest in the life and death of Jesus. You call yourself a christian.
     
  16. Dejavu

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    brainpain35:
    You side with the murderers of Jesus? Or do you take no side and sit smugly in the shadows with OWB?

    Those shadows, like the best of intentions, are the shades of hell. A fiction I destroy with my whole soul. When the wind changes, take cover.
     
  17. thedope

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    The question of the thread is why did god need to sacrifice jesus to forgive sin.
    My answer is he didn't, it didn't happen. Why do you insist now that he must succumb to injury?
     
  18. thedope

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    Where is the body then. Evidently where the vultures gather.
     
  19. brainpain35

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    i see no point in picking at one another
    instead putting all our heads together to find the same point

    we can forgive one another and move on
    but i dont believe we hold the power to forgive the actual sin itself
    that is what God has the power to do
    him alone

    and yes i do believe once he is in your heart that what you do
    he becomes a part of rather good or bad
    making people who actual believe in him and have him in there hearts and believe hes there one true savior want to make more choices he would want to be apart of
    and were all human everyone sins no matter how much of a christian you are or claim
    and when we sin i do believe that it is directed toward him knowingly or unknowingly
     
  20. Dejavu

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    My answer is the same. 'God' did not sacrifice him. The injury was never his own in the sense that he did not commit it, only sustained it.
     

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