Why Do People Get Married?

Like I said, I may not understand their logic in their religious beliefs but I don't know that you can judge someone's intelligence on their belief in god. I may have a private opinion on the matter but I don't voice it unless provoked.

Everyone in my life knows how I feel about religion so we don't talk about it. Although most of my friends feel the same way I do. Most of the time if there is a discussion that arises I am at work and a client may bring it up. In that case I have to be as polite and respectful as possible. Usually my rules go as follows:
1. Don't talk about it.
2. If they bring it up try to change the subject.
3. If they persist I explain to them that we may have differing views on the matter
4. If they keep going I explain to them that church really isn't my thing.
5. Keep going? I tell them I don't believe in god. That usually shuts them up.

I had one guy that used to come in a long time ago to get his hair cut. He was a hardcore Christian wannabe minister. He would spout off all of this hate towards everyone. He would talk about everything you shouldn't talk about to a stranger with sharp objects near your head. I did my best to ignore what he was saying for the first few times he came in. I talked to the girl that used to cut his hair that moved away. I told her that I don't know how she did it for so long with the way he was so rude about everything. He REALLY REALLY hated gay people. I have a HUGE problem with that but tried my best to keep my mouth shut. She told me that he does that because he likes to provoke you to have an uncomfortable conversation with him. DONE DEAL!

The next time he came in he started on his hatred towards gays again. I said I have no problem with gay people. I have gay friends and family members and I didn't appreciate him saying those things in my chair. This was the conversation.
HIM: Say you had a kid and you needed a babysitter. Say Adam and Steve lived next door and said they would babysit. Would you let them?
ME: If I trusted them as people, absolutely I would let them babysit. I would assess if I trust them the same way I would anybody. What they do in the privacy of their own bedroom is none of my business.
HIM: What if they killed your mom in their bedroom?
I GOT PISSED!!!
ME: Well first of all, my mom is dead so thanks for brining that up. Second of all, killing someone is against the law therefore no matter who it was I wouldn't trust them. It certainly wouldn't be because they were gay. It would be because they are murderers. Third of all, I highly doubt a couple of gay guys are going to be busy killing my mom in their bedroom.
HIM:................
yeah, nothing. He had nothing to say. When I finished his haircut I told him it might be time for him to find a new stylist and I've never seen him again.

People like that are the ones that give Christians a bad name. I understand he is an exception and not every god fearing person is like him. That man deserves no respect from me. If someone needs god in their life to help them sleep better at night who am I to judge that? My rule is don't be an asshole. If you're not an asshole then you don't need to be forgiven of your sins. I live by that and I sleep just fine at night.

sorry for the book.

 

Lol. I'm sorry for your hard times in relationships but there's no need to be a scorned woman/feminist. There are just as many nefarious women out there taking advantage of men as the flip.

 

People get married because it's like the thing you're supposed to do and stuff. That, and reproduce. There's not enough people in this world.

 

Originally, marriage was a contract between families, usually for some sort of mutual gain-most often for property.
The typical Middle East bride was a very young virgin contracted by the parents to an older male who could afford the dowry.

Married women who had affairs risked death (although there were plenty of quiet lesbian affairs, which apparently didn't count), but the males could marry as many females as they could afford to support in style.
Powerful men often used young boys also (a great read is The Persian Boy http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001PCLO66/ref=olp_product_details?ie=UTF8&me=&seller"]THE PERSIAN BOY: MARY RENAULT: Amazon.com: Books= based on the life of Alexander the Great's young Persian slave/lover)

Children inherited the property of the male's family in most cases, although not in many Native North American tribes, where females owned the property and family names. If a Native American Indian male didn't please his mate, she put his weapons outside the tent flap, or whatever was being used, and the guy had to LEAVE.

European powerful families married for money, except that noble (inbred) females were actually often encouraged to have affairs with lower status males with healthy DNA so the family line had a better chance to to continue.
A married noblewoman was only required to produce an "heir and a spare," then she was free to pursue her own love interests, as did her husband. It was an accepted thing, something that modern nobility sometimes objects to (can somone say, "Princess Diana?"). It's fun to read old 16-18th century books, or books about that era, and see how pragmatic marriage arrangements were.

As the Italians used to say, "we marry for money, but love for ourselves!" (something the Thai know well). :love:
This entire modern USA romantic marriage idea is fairly recent anyway. In Europe and other countries, wives and husbands aren't expected to be "best friends" or even vacation together. Good idea. Many US men find themselves spending their precious holiday time being dragged to places that bore them.

 

I follow similar rules in dealing with people who want to preach about their god, except I don't tell anyone that I don't believe in a god. I would probably be forced to quit work if I did it there, or ostracized if I did it outside of work.

That was amazing restraint in dealing with the psycho minister wannabe. I would have "accidentally" clipped a big stripe across his head.

 

I should have shaved 666 into the back of his head. hahahaha

 

Some nice people here, I see.

 

Hi Piaf, I was joking about the stripe and from RubySoho's past posts I gather that she is too nice of a person to intentionally mess up someone's hair either.

Sorry if it sounds like I'm snapping back. I'm not.

 

I almost forgot to come back and respond to this. I can picture him thanking you when you finished his hair cut, walking down the street with 666 on the back of his head. All the while smiling at his great cut every time he saw his reflection. Hahaha

 

Hahaha, it was obviously a joke but he would have deserved it.

 

This thread delivers. :2thumbsup:

 

Nice bird. Could you answer my question? Your posts made me wonder if you equate religion with God. I would have quoted it again but it has a lot of quotes in it It's 2 pages back: http://www.hipforums.com/newforums/showpost.php?p=7875155&postcount=84

I guess you saw some criticism on USA citizens?

 

Exactly, it's the private opinion that I asked about. As I see it, we must distinguish among 3 different things:

1) private judgments;
2) spouting your unasked for private judgments off;
3) actually doing something to suppress dissent.

In my book, 1) is absolutely healthy and essential for our survival. 2) is impolite but legal. 3) is illegal.

What your preacher wannabe did was level 2), and he got his just desserts. Had he been thrown in jail, it would have been too much. But, obviously he isn't entitled to have you listen to his load of crap.

Had he burned the gay couple's house or something, he should have been in jail for arson. Had he kept his prejudice to himself, I wouldn't have been his warmest friend, but neither would I stop being civil or having a professional relationship with him.

As the politically correct movement would have it, we don't have the right to judgments or their expression. I disagree. I see nothing wrong with them as long as we take responsibility for the social (as opposed to legal) consequences of spouting them off.

 

No I don't equate religion with god. And honestly I don't give a fuck, but sometimes it's entertaining to stir some things up.

That's what this place is for: entertainment. If you think otherwise you are as stupid as religious people.

I know, I am a horrible person and I deserve the thumbs down that are coming.

 

Everyone has private opinions about everything. All that matters is how or if you express them. I guess technically everyone has a right to say anything they want. That doesn't mean they should express every thought that goes through their head. I've said it before, I try not to be an asshole. I try to think about how my words are going to make other people feel. There are a lot of thoughts that go through my head that I filter before they come out because I realize I could hurt peoples feelings. Hell, there have been a bunch of times on here that I have typed things out then deleted them and I don't even personally know anybody here. It doesn't REALLY matter if I piss anybody off. It's not going to make a difference in my daily life. I strongly believe that you get what you give. If you're decent to me, no matter if we have differing views, I will be decent to you. If you're an asshole to me, then watch out because I an out-asshole the best of them

 

Is it 'thumbs down' or would it be 'thumb downs' or perhaps even 'thumbs downs'. 'Downthumbs'?

Native English speakers, enlighten me.

 

You got a thumbs up, thumb ups, thumbs ups, upthumbs from me. I would tend to say thumbs up/down although it is only one so it shouldn't be plural....fuck it...here you go. Thumbs up! :2thumbsup:

 

My guess is thumb downs.

 

I can see how your mind did that :2thumbsup: But that this place is mainly for entertainment doesn't change the fact that often serious questions are asked (and answererd ), probably because serious convo's can be very entertaining. You're not that horrible for wanting to stir things up, it would be more horrible if you really think all religious people must be stupid or of course seriously would think I'm as stupid as the ones you focus on (ah well, it seems you like to focus on them all actually, but that seems pretty useless generalizing to me anyway)