Why do people like Ron Paul?

I does seem that of all of them Ron Paul is the most likely to do what he says he will. He does seem to have a pretty good record. He does inspire trust because he is honest. Honesty is not in fashion with the media.


Ron Paul's biggest obstacle seems to be the media. The media wants someone pretty and scandalous. Ron Paul is old and wise. He knows about history and science and economics. He wants to pus the reset button on the economy. They already want him to head the Treasury. That right there tells you that they all know up there in DC that he is right.

 

Wait wait, in your head, the fact that he thinks the US is a welfare state means that he wants to abolish whatever help is available? I am amazed by your associative systems if this is the case. It would do you good to listen to Ron Paul talking about his past as a doctor applying his skills in a hospital run by the church. He says that healthcare is not a right and according to the constitution he is correct. The right to life, liberty and estate. So nobody's going to kill you, you can do what you like within reason and you have the right to own things. It says nothing about the right to the services that other people can provide, at least I don't think it does. This does not, however, mean that he wants to suck resources away from public services.
If you would do some research and listen to his policies on what to do with the US military (and their HUMONGOUS budget) you would see that what is promoting is a very rational and caring array of policies. I would say that he offers some of the best solutions and methods of society that are possible with the restraints of a monetary system.

But enough from me about Ron Paul. Your duty as an American and your service to the world is to carefully examine your potential leaders and see to it that the best possible leader is elected. Something that the vast majority of Americans has failed in miserably for generations. Examine them for yourself and make your decision based on a deeper factual analysis, not the opinions of others that gradually seep into your head to become your own opinion. Opinion should be no factor in judgement, especially in things of such importance.

What you wrote in your message that I quoted reads like a script for someone like Bill O'Reilly on Fox news, by the way.

 

Typical cynic rhetoric. It displays a complete disillusion in the human spirit and parallels such undesirable traits as racism in its unbridled prejudice against people from other walks of life.

I urge you to look at Ron Paul properly, his past; his voting record, his education, previous employment, whether he is or has ever been featured on the pay roll of some of the largest corporations in the world, whether he has kept his mouth shut or spoken up time and time again about the geopolitical and financial disasters just waiting to happen, how many times he has accurately predicted or interpreted said geopolitical and financial endeavours.

It's about time all Americans shut there big fat fucking mouths and stopped offering their opinion, turning instead towards the facts and reality as a source for inspiration towards action.

Rembember that opinion, whether it is yours, the guy's on the street, the media's, even my own is NOT reality. Reality is reality and it is from reality that we should draw stimulus. America has been shaped by opinion and speculation, hell, the whole world has now! And it's about time for that shit to go.

So I implore all of you, brothers and sisters across the ocean, to do your research properly on your politicians. There is no excuse now we have the internet to serve us, we can find information about people and policies from countless sources, some biased, some not. One thing I do know, if you've done your research properly, is that - unless you vote for Ron Paul - you will definitely not be voting for a candidate from any of the two main parties.

 

The media is not in love with Ron Paul or the tea party. The tea party is a very large group of people. Many candidates have tried to hijack them and turn them into what they want them to be. Bachmann is trying to inject her brand of Christianity, Perry is trying to come off as a good looking Ron Paul but he is neo-con thru and thru and everyone knows it. All of them represent the too big to fails in one way or another. None of them are supported by the people. Only Ron Paul is supported by people.

The bad economy is what formed the tea party. Their voice has been spun by the media they make them out to be fools. The media is owned by the too big to fails people.

 

Yes? I had hoped as much, so I am glad to hear from a US citizen their view on the tea party. I was talking to my friend earlier about my confusion towards the tea party movement. I found it strange that a movement with Ron Paul as an intellectual godfather could be construed in such a diabolical way and have some of the most shallow and preposterous, non-constitutional politicians attached to it. Of course it didn't take me long to compare the two sides of the movement and realise what was going on, even a child could see that if they have the basic facts in front of them. Nobody could ever tell that from the sorts of opinions that are normally broadcast throughout the world's media.

Surely that's another massive clue for you: The media loves to attack Ron Paul. There are interviews with him where he is surrounded by interviewers barking and snarling at him like wild dogs. The thing is, the man has such a refined style and intellect behind him that he still comes out smelling of roses. I would love to see people accuse Ron Paul of some of the things mentioned in this thread to the man himself as I'm sure they wouldn't stick. And I don't mean they wouldn't stick in a kind of Bush and Cheney avoiding the question and distorting the truth way; I mean he would use reason, logic and reality. And in this respect he is incredibly consistent, many times he has repeated himself because he does not flip-flop and try to curry favour, he tells it straight. He knows what works (or what is the better option) and he sticks to it.

One can only hope that he would do the same if elected. He has played a very very long con if it is a lie.

 

America is dumbed down....

 

So are many parts of the world, some even have greater populations.

 

Yeah that's true, even in countries with very high numbers of professional people and university graduates the general populace and even the "intellectuals" themselves display a great lack of what you could call the awareness you have if you're not subject to dumbing down. It's not just an American thing, it's very much a human thing right now.

 

I'm not an american so I don't really care who you elect, and I have no idea who Bill O'Reilly is. If you want to accept Paul's 'constitutionalism' as a political motto that's fine with me. Anyone who buys that probably doesn't understand what a constitution is - or they have little faith in a constitution if they believe that unconstitutional laws can pass through the legislature and withstand legal challenges. I'm not interested in the little details of his policies. Saying you're going to implement policies more in line with the constitution is meaningless. If people want the right to health, or any other political change, why should they be denied it because a dusty old document written to set up the legal foundations of a state does not mention it?

 

How has so called "health" become a right that the government is supposed to despence? You have a right to take care of your health you do not have the right to demand the goods and services of others be provided by government.

The reason health care services have become so unaffordable is government involvement.

 

That's your government's problem. Where I'm from healthcare is a right, I get it for free, and it's a very good service. I'd probably be dead or writhing in pain if it wasn't.

 

Because they think he's rue Paul out of drag

 

It is not free there is nothing any government does tat is free somewhere somehow someone pays. If it was free your doctor would not be getting paid. Doctors do get paid in your country right?

 

Yes, but not by me. And if I'm not paying, it's free. Logical, isn't it?

 

Not really.

 

National insurance? You are paying. Unless you choose not to make that contribution, in which case everyone else is. You are sadly mistaken if you think that healthcare is a right. There may be some very compassionate and generous people among us but it is not our right for them to be compassionate and generous to us. Paying your national insurance makes you eligible for healthcare sort of like on a contractual basis but I don't see how you can justify it as a right.

If state funded healthcare is a right then that makes state funded job-seeker's allowance a right and the emergency services aright that we all have. Surely you can see how they are privileges? If our emergency services were a right then it would be a totalitarian requirement that people work for the emergency services, even if they didn't want to. They choose to serve people through their profession, it is not mandatory for them to do so. Healthcare is the same.

On the subject of non-constitutional laws being passed, again you are demonstrating how little you know about what is constitutional. Ron Paul would be the most constitutional politician to be elected as leader on either side of the Atlantic for decades. If you want to talk about unconstitutional laws being passed, all you need to do is look at most of the laws being passed in America and Europe for the past 80 years, most of which infringe on our liberties. Liberty, now that is something we have a right to.

 

I didn't say it was a right. Where did I say that? I said if people want to make it happen, it should be allowed to and not be restricted by a legal document which is not at all concerned with that issue.

Unconstitutional - a law is unconstitutional not when it is interpreted as such by His Majesty and Master of the Rolls Ron Paul, but when the constitutional courts set up BY the constitution decree so.

 

There.

Constitutional courts can still be corrupted or not referred to in these issues. Have British terrorism laws or the US Patriot act (same thing but slightly worse) been deemed unconstitutional by constitutional courts? No. They haven't, as far as I'm aware. Most people who understand their respective constitution, however, could only reach the conclusion that they are unconstitutional.

Other great examples of unconstitutional laws are any law that prohibits you from taking pretty much any substance, speeding laws and any law obliging you to pay any form of tax. Although thankfully tax laws are very few and far between (yes, that's right, there's no actual law that says you must pay tax).

 

Sigh. It's a right when the law says it is, that's all. You're entitled to argue against the notion of the right to universal health care, which I never said existed.

So what? Law isn't that simple. If it was, why does the US highest court have 9 judges.

You can make an argument that it is unconstitutional, but if the courts have said it is, what does that say about your faith in your nation's judicial system - which was set up by the constitution itself? What does it say about Ron Paul's faith in it? The finest of the american legal tradition, in an instutition entrenched by the constitution and selected in a process it decrees: all wrong on their area of expertise, and here's a doctor-cum-politician who's right about it all.

 

Unbelievable! I am so embarrassed for you ....... it is glaringly obvious that you know not of what you speak. Surely you must know that too! The question you posed is ridiculous - where have you been all your life?

I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and guess that you just don't leave your little room too much; and that you are completely isolated from the world around you. Your post evokes deep-seated anger - but anger is typically fear-based. How long do you think you will last if they do "bring it on", as you invite? Do you even know what "disintegration of law and order" translates into? You said, "bring it on," so I guess you're one of the rare individuals that's into being grabbed by force and thrown into an internment camp for ... let's see .... probably for mouthing off at the Military Presence that will appear in your town and stay there 24/7; once disintegration of order is either
initiated or initiates itself by folks being out of control because the
shelves in the grocery stores are empty and they can't buy any gasoline 'cause it ain't there. Should I go on? Do you get me, Sweetheart?

Oh, and one more thing ... the United States is a welfare country, and
I fail to see the humor in that. We're even supporting people that aren't American citizens that never paid into our system; and they are collecting it in droves - how dumb is that? Now, the United States is completely broke, and the folks who did pay into the Social Security system their whole working lives may not be able to get that money back when they retire, even though when the government withheld it from them, they promised to keep safe and give it back.

Now do you comprehend why we need Ron Paul as our leader?

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