Why do people like Ron Paul?

LOL

I just went and looked at the John Maynard Keynes and Economic Fascism vid it was a hoot.

I mean you lie and misdirect from the very beginning -

You begin by doctoring a quote by Keynes so it seems like he is saying the opposite of what he was actually saying. -

"The best way to destroy the Capitalist System was to debauch the currency. By a continuing process of inflation, governments can confiscate, secretly and unobserved, an important part of the wealth of their citizens."

Notice the capital T

Well what he actually said was this -

"Lenin is said to have declared that the best way to destroy the Capitalist System was to debauch the currency. By a continuing process of inflation, governments can confiscate, secretly and unobserved, an important part of the wealth of their citizens. There is no subtler, no surer means of overturning the existing basis of society than to debauch the currency. The process engages all the hidden forces of economic law on the side of destruction, and does it in a manner which not one man in a million is able to diagnose. By this method they not only confiscate, but they confiscate arbitrarily; and, while the process impoverishes many, it actually enriches some. The sight of this arbitrary rearrangement of riches strikes not only at security, but at confidence in the equity of the existing distribution of wealth. Those to whom the system brings windfalls, beyond their deserts and even beyond their expectations or desires, become ‘profiteers,’ who are the object of the hatred of the bourgeoisie, whom the inflationism has impoverished, not less than of the proletariat.”p. 235-36



First he is passing on what Lenin said and also it is meant as a warning about printing money and its inflationary possibilities he was not recommending it.

He is also warning that that during times of economic distress some people become very much richer.

We’ve been through this back in 2009 –

Utopia, no just Keynes
http://www.hipforums.com/newforums/showthread.php?t=328353&page=2

 

But wasn't Keynes also, like Lenin, against free market capitalism? And the thing is Keynes views, which are endorsed by Wall Street, have done exactly what he supposedly was "warning" against. So I find what you're saying a bit ironic.

Tell me how I am wrong.

People who are supporters of Keynes, like Paul Krugman, argue the Fed isn't doing enough to print more money. Keynes never even addressed the Fed as an issue of concern because his buddies were all part of it.

 

LOL – I notice you don’t even try to defend you lying – are you hoping that if you just through out a few more lies people will forget the last ones.

The mantra of the true neoliberal you are.

Keynesians know that there is and never has been a ‘free market’

Try reading- Free market = plutocratic tyranny.
http://www.hipforums.com/modules/News/showarticle.php?threadid=353336

Market need regulating so they serve everyone in society, badly regulated markets serve themselves are unstable and enrich only a few.

Neoliberals like yourself prefer badly regulated markets because…well you want to…to…

Yes why do you want to make wealth more powerful?

 

The next lie in your quaint little vid is that Keynes ideas were followed at Bretton Wood when in fact they were rejected in favour of a half arsed American deal that has caused more harm than good.

If your argument is sound why do you need to lie so often?

I mean you think your ideas are right but you also know that the only way to try and promote them is by lying through your teeth. Doesn’t that ring alarm bells in your brain?

 

What I see is that Ron Paul stands out from the rest of the candidates in that he does not bow down to too big to fails and he promotes freedom.

If you do not mind loosing freedom, more taxes and more bowing down to the too big to fails then vote for anyone else and you will get just that.

Women who think he would make abortion illegal do not totally understand the issue it ought to be addressed on the local level not the national level because it is such an emotional issue it ought to reflect the values of the locality. If all states want abortion let them have it but let the people sort it out locally.

If you want pot to be legal than fight it out locally. This is how it should be the federal government ought not be able to decide these things or spend money enforcing it.

 

The problem is that he stands for the freedom to be exploited and possibly to die of want, less taxation making wealth much more powerful and bringing about a plutocratic oligarchy where things are run in the interests of wealth.

 

What's there NOT to like about Ron Paul?

Why has this poll been closed? Not producing the results desired?

 

I did not close it and I do not know why it is closed....

 

Well, just chalk my vote up as "They believe he will do what he says he will do".
Ron Paul is my preferred candidate, but I would still like to see a one on one debate between Obama (without a teleprompter) and Newt Gingrich.

 

I thought Newt Gingrich had some merit until I found this out:

http://2012.republican-candidates.org/Gingrich/Marijuana.php

Not to mention the irony that he used to smoke weed himself. And in the 80's, he actually wrote a letter supporting medical marijuana. Now he's pushing extremist views for not allowing it.

Not only is Newt wrong, but the fact that he radically flip-flopped his position shows he's not consistent.

Ron Paul or bust.

 

My comment wasn't an indication of support for Newt, but only that he would likely have Obama stammering and stuttering unintelligibly if they were to debate the U.S. Constitution.
Ron Paul is the ONLY candidate I could caste my vote FOR, any other candidate would result in my vote being cast against OBAMA. Sadly, the effort by the media to minimize Ron Paul appears to be succeeding.

 

Not necessarily. Ron Paul seems to have been getting more media appearances recently than usual. Surprisingly by Fox News actually, which even reported on his Black This Out Money Bomb. Hannity was also kissing up to him, trying to make it sound like he was on his side all along.

Slowly but surely, there is hope. It's Romney I'm the most worried about getting chosen, though.

 

Because he wants drugs and prostitution legalized. But he really does have a lot of experience and would make an excellent candidate for presidency.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xYaujnR_8NE"]CULT of Ron Paul - YouTube

 

Thanks for that pOLy!^^

Straight up, Ron Paul's a fucking evangelical and a brilliant demagogue...

Perfect guy to bring us that fascist theocracy Frank Zappa warned us about!

ZW

 

The economy is in a horrible shape, our foreign policy is killing innocent lives and putting our country in even more danger than it was back in 9/11, and the drug war is ever growing worse. People are forgetting to look at the other candidates versus Ron Paul and that he's our only hope right now at getting the country back on the right track.

It's not a cult, it's called, yeah I may be pro-choice, but I still support Ron Paul's policies, especially since Ron Paul said he'll keep the federal government out of it, and allow the states to make the decision. It's called the other candidates aren't offering what he's offering. Plus, adoption wouldn't be a problem if we had a good economy and weren't wasting it overseas and using bailouts.

He's actually one of the top candidates now, but since I like to listen to the media, no let's call him a cult!

The theory of evolution argument is getting pretty ridiculous. Not only is it ridiculous to not choose a president over just that one argument, but it's actually twisting his words. Ron Paul is in the middle. The theory of evolution does have a lot of scientific fact backing it, but it's still considered a theory. Ron Paul said there's no 100% proof for him to definitively choose either. THAT is what he said. He may be a Christian, but that doesn't make him a creationist. The story of Genesis might as well be a parable. The dude's not a scientist, and I find this middle-ground view is quite acceptable. Try comparing him to Romney, who's currently in the lead and is a Mormon.

Ron Paul's comments on separation of church and state have also been misconstrued. What he's talking about is religious freedom, something the government has been trying to limit as of late. He is not talking about imposing one's views on someone else.

"Economic progress"? The economy has gotten much worse because of the Federal Reserve and everything getting messed with. This guy doesn't have a clue what he's talking about on that issue. Ron Paul actually predicted the economic bubbles bursting while no one else saw it coming. He should have watched this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vm3DixfL9o0"]Zeitgeist Addendum - Modern Money Mechanics - YouTube

My conclusion, TheAmazingAtheist sounds depressive and disillusioned. He also doesn't seem to actually realize the desperate state this country is really in, while he continues to enjoy the comforts of his suburban life.

Conspiracy?

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SVH3MiO2ZS4"]TheAntiTerrorist on Ron Paul - YouTube

 

Fuck Ron Paul and (most) of his supporters. I was distributing lit at this protest and 5 of them (his supporters) started verbally attacking me, telling me that since I'm an anarchist I'm immoral and believe in stealing. Fuck that. They were being dicks to everyone at the local Occupy.

 

to be honest i couldn't care about ron paul to the person who replied to me and just from one video don't think you can sum up exactly how theamazingatheist thinks because actually you described him completely different to how he is.

just because he doesn't agree with you on ron paul doesn't mean he's disillusioned and you can see the light lol... damn man.

 

Naw, I think we've been teetering on the edge since the Reagan era...

's one reason I thought Obama was cool, he didn't seem to be tied to a bunch of foaming evangelicals...But oh-oh, found out he is a butt-boy to the ZPC (Zionist Power Configuration) so yeah, always some religious shit in the mix somewhere huh?



ZW