why do people post anti-religion posts here?

Discussion in 'Christianity' started by mr.morrison, Mar 15, 2006.

  1. Zoomie

    Zoomie My mom is dead, ok?

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    Thank you, busmama.
     
  2. skip

    skip Founder Administrator

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    When you christians stop dropping into OTHER forums (and real life too) telling us how to live our lives, we'll stop coming into your forum bashing your religion.

    How's that? ;)
     
  3. JesusDiedForU

    JesusDiedForU Banned

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    Alright sounds fair to me : )
     
  4. FACT: In the spanish civil war, fascism was backed by the church.

    You burgeious pig!
     
  5. Portalguy

    Portalguy Member

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    Check how many times people have dropped in on us versus how many times we've dropped in on them in these forums. I think you'll be suprised Skip.
     
  6. skip

    skip Founder Administrator

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    Judging by the emails, reported posts, and postings I've read, I'd say you're way wrong portal guy.

    And in real life as well. Christians feel it's their duty to point out every "sin" they encounter, real or imagined.

    American christians in particular are constantly laying their puritanical values upon other members of this site. I can't count the number of times I've had to remind them this site is INTERNATIONAL, non-denominational, and that it isn't their place to criticize other ppls morality, especially around here.

    I could point to dozens of threads where one after another christian attacks ppl for being gay, for dating someone younger than them, for getting abortions, etc. etc. etc.

    I for one am sick of it. Sick of the condescending preachy attitude of ppl who've never left their country to see how the rest of the world lives. Even European christians have a much more enlightened attitude when it comes to these issues.

    Give me a break dude! Wake up and smell the Xtian shit spread all over this site. I suppose if I started banning ppl for spreading that puritanical shit around then you'd notice their absence from this forum...

    There are a million xtian sites on the web. If you wanna hangout in this one, you better be way more enlightened and tolerant than the average American xtian. (I'm not saying a lot of you aren't but some of you ruin it for the rest).
     
  7. skip

    skip Founder Administrator

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    I look forward to the day your FALSE PROPHET, G. W. Bush is given his due too. He claims to talk to God and God answers, so that makes him a prophet. The fact that he's also the most powerful man in the world only magnifies this deception and the danger therein.

    Your most powerful spokesman on earth today is a conman, a liar, a false prophet, and the biggest danger facing America and the world.

    It's no wonder people are attacking Xtianity when Bush is your most visible representative. You should all be ashamed to be Xtians. ;)
     
  8. Portalguy

    Portalguy Member

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    What are you talking about my false prophet George W. Bush? What do you know about me to make a claim like that? How about you look up the word intolerant and come back and tell me how your acting. It's always the same thing. Some people come here ignorantly pointing fingers saying Christians are hateful and bias. Then turn around and act real hateful and bias. Count the threads on this site that are against Christians. Then count how many of us are posting against others and hit me back. I'm sorry for whatever reason you have a personal vendetta against Christians. Just remember two things. Number one not all of us are fundies. Number two you act the same way they do. Closed minded. You're the webmaster posting this?
     
  9. Professor Jumbo

    Professor Jumbo Mr. Smarty Pants

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    I'm fairly certain that that is taking things way too far, to put it mildly. That's the same kind of thinking that causes people to associate all Muslims with Bin Laden, or all Germans with Hitler, all Russians with Stalin; you get the picture. Really, who told you that Bush is some kind of universal Pope? I would imagine that the vast majority of Christians both in America and worldwide think Bush's versions of Christianity is repulsive and blasphemous.

    The republicans rigged those elections and everybody knows it, and Bush deeply offends most Americans when he goes around claiming to be a prophet. His approval rating is at about 35% right now, and it continues to drop. We hate him here too skip. And the idea that he somehow represents American Christianity is patently absurd. The "Christians" that he does represent are a small group of whackos. Unfortunately they are lead by billionaire whackos with the money to plaster their whacko crap all over the media when in reality their numbers are much smaller than it at first seems.
     
  10. Portalguy

    Portalguy Member

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    Especially since I suffered through Hurricane Katrina and have very strong feelings toward Bush. I'm also pretty far from being a Republican and didn't vote for him either time. I can't get over you saying that on a hippy forum. Skip that wasn't cool at all.
     
  11. skip

    skip Founder Administrator

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    I can't help that people like Bush make such a BIG deal out of being christian. Like it or not he's your #1 poster boy. He's also America's #1 poster boy. That's why more and more people are turning against America and the Christian philosophy that guides it.

    I'm merely echoing the sentiments of many.

    Don't like it, you should've worked harder to keep your fellow Xtians from electing him then RE-ELECTING him. He's your boy, like it or not. Don't want to be associated with him, don't like what he represents, then do something about it. Demand that he keep his religion to himself, and NOT pretend to represent all Xtians, as he continues to do.

    He invokes your lords name over and over. He says he's doing the lord's duty. You say otherwise. Who is right? I'm not the one to split Xtian hairs. This is something you ppl need to workout amongst yourselves, just like muslims need to deal with the madmen amongst them.

    Meanwhile we all suffer Bushit, just as many of us must put up with XTIAN morality in this XTIAN country. You think we like being told we are immoral? You think we like being told we are going to hell for our actions? NO!

    We won't stand for this shit, and we have EVERY right to let YOU know. And what better place than right here in the hipforums Christianity forum!
     
  12. skip

    skip Founder Administrator

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    Are you angry yet? Yes? I say no. You're not nearly as angry as you need to be. Unfortunately you're angry at me. This is completely misplaced. What I am saying is what MILLIONS are feeling right now. This is your new christian dilemma. Your religion preaches apocalypse. Many Christians take it to heart, and are preparing for it. Bush is in a position to make it happen at the push of a button.

    NO! YOU'RE STILL NOT ANGRY ENOUGH!

    You're gonna have to get a LOT angrier, you're gonna have to start realizing that the rest of the NON-XTIAN world isn't gonna stand for this shit anymore.

    The time is now for you. This is the FINAL test of your faith. Everyone of you should be so ashamed of the actions of your leader that you are willing to risk your lives to change the course your country is on. Because otherwise it might cost all of us our lives. Do you understand that?

    You can come here and discuss the fine points of your religion like the outside world doesn't exist. But it does exist and it is being terrified by a cadre of XTIAN terrorists bent on apocalypse. And you still discuss the fine points of your religion. Time is running out for us all while madman rule and plot and gather arms for the final battle.

    And we are just supposed to watch, and let all this happen? NO!

    XTIANS put the madman in power, it's up to XTIANS to take him out. NOW!

    We are so sick of him, and what he represents. And it's not just money, or oilmen or conservative republicans. It's Christianity. MOST Christians voted for him - TWICE! So don't say he doesn't represent Chrisitians. If you call yourself a Xtian, he's your boy. DEAL WITH IT! TAKE RESPONSIBILITY. Then maybe I wouldn't have to come here and rag on your religion.
     
  13. Professor Jumbo

    Professor Jumbo Mr. Smarty Pants

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    Seriously, this doesn't make sense. Since when is the head of state the defacto religious leader as well? Tony Bliar is Christian, does that make him the religious leader of all the Christians in the UK? Angela Merkel is Christian, does that make her the religious leader of all the Christians in Germany? Silvio Berlusconi is Christian, does that make him the religious leader of all the Christians in Italy? What a silly idea. MOST Christians would be appalled at the idea of Bush being their religious leader. Additionally, MOST Christians did not vote for Bush. When you take into account the millions of votes that mysteriously disappeared along with the millions of people who were denied their right to vote along with the fact that the vast majority of Americans are Christian and about 45% didn't vote at all you find that only about 1/4 of the Christians voted for Bush, a far cry from "MOST". And of those the majority did so not because he is a Christian but because he is a Republican.

    For the Republican party honchos, the real honchos, the ones with the big bucks pulling the strings Christianity is simply a marketing ploy. Look at the laws they've passed. They promise their whacko fundi "Christian" constituants all kinds of Bible based laws but have not passed one, they haven't even introduced one in congress, the only thing similar is that watered down "faith based initive" thing. The laws they are passing are all sorts of fascistic statutes reminicient of the third reich. Not surprising since these guys are, after all, fascists. The real big shots don't give two shits about Christianity.

    Is Bush giving Christians and Americans a bad name? He sure as hell is! He's a rotten fascist fuck who deserves to be locked up for good. But the line of reasoning that leads to the conclusion that all Christians and all Americans love ol' Dubya is faulty. It leads to similar conclusions about other people. For example, it leads to the conclusion that all Muslims love Bin Laden and want to emulate him. Bin Laden needs to either be killed or locked up in prision for the rest of his life (with Bush for a cell mate), prision is probably best for several reasons. Now by this line of reasoning Skip, all Muslims deserve the same, lets round 'em up and send 'em all to camps. You see where I'm going with this. The idea that everybody of any particular "other" group aspires to be like or is represented by the worst member of that group has gotten us into all sorts of shitty situations since beginning of recorded history. And I wish that everybody would cut it out already, enough is enough.

    Now if someone wants to hate Christians and Americans they have the right I suppose. Me, I hate spiders and Visigoths.
     
  14. Zoomie

    Zoomie My mom is dead, ok?

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    I have to agree, Skip. Even ths fundies are beginning to display a modecum of common sense and distance themselves from Bush. The cheese will soon stand alone. But back to the subject of this thread...
     
  15. Portalguy

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    Saying I'm not angry at George W. Bush is a misguided statement. For some reason though you still don't get it. I have MORE personal reason than you to be angry at him. Yet, you threw him in my face in the middle of a conversation that had very little to do with him in the first place. That's when I got angry at you. It's being stereotypical. How can you not see this connection? Come down on me for being a Christian as much as possible. What grandiose philosophy do you subscribe to that allows such egoism and underhanded tactics?
     
  16. Burbot

    Burbot Dig my burdei

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    I agree. And I find it odd that the subject only lasted a little while before turning into what the original poster was talking about. This thread was about why "anti-religion" (in general, and not anti-Christian) threads in the Christianity Forum are posted and not in the general Religion board.
     
  17. skip

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    Does Blair, Merkel or Berlusconi claim to talk to god, and get answers and make political decisions based on that? NO!

    Did you read where I said that European Xtians are way more tolerant and far less dogmatic and puritanical than Americans?

    So your analogy doesn't apply since Bush & America are a unique case.


    Of those who VOTED, the majority were XTIANS, and THEY voted for BUSH. You cannot deny that.


    I never said ALL XTIANS love BUSH. Don't put words under my fingers that aren't there. Yes, XTIANS are JUST BEGINNING to wake up, but they've still got a long way to go. The programming runs deep. And this flaw in American politics reflects a MAJOR flaw in XTIANITY. And that is what needs to be addressed.

    The flaw is the idea that you must impose your religion upon others. Just like ISLAM. Fundamentalism or not, this has been a goal of one XTIAN sect after another.

    I long for the day when I don't have to deal with one XTIAN group or another knocking on my door trying to prostelize me.

    I long for the day when our political leaders don't invoke their XTIAN GOD over and over again.

    I long for the day when school children aren't required to invoke that God every day in their classrooms.

    You forget how insidious the XTIAN brainwashing is here in America.

    Where is the separation of church and state?
     
  18. synaptic aether

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    because harassing christians is harmless, cathartic, and funny.
     
  19. Soulless||Chaos

    Soulless||Chaos SelfInducedExistence

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    Skip's right, living in the south with all these damn baptists, they fucking love bush. :$
     
  20. skip

    skip Founder Administrator

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    Well if that's exactly what was meant, then this whole thread was placed in the wrong forum. It should be in the User support forum. Better still, the threads should've been reported to a mod who would place them in the correct forum, then this wouldn't even be an issue.

    I can see how ppl easily misunderstood the intent. Esp. after the first few replies. Sorry to not have noticed that earlier.

    I'm suprised there isn't a stickied anti-xtian thread here where everyone can vent their feelings. Then that wouldn't need to spill over into your other threads.

    But now that we've taken this tack, it's got a life of its own. And I think it's a very necessary discussion. I'm sorry if there's already a thread like this, but this is the one that caught the webmaster's attention.
     

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