And as I've pointed out they're out in the streets (and on these forums) harrassing us heathens, sinners and blasphemers. So turnabout is fair play.
Again...Not all of us do that. But, if you insist on your prejudice then so be it. It was kind of you to use the name of Bush to harass this Katrina victim. Have a great day.Nice of you to erase one of my posts as well. Would that be censorship? God bless.
I didn't delete any posts. Which one? It is possible I may have hit the edit button instead of quote button (that happens very rarely - like 3 times b4). If so I apologize.
Wasn't me. I don't delete posts permanently unless they're just spam. Often ppl have just posted something in a different thread and don't realize it. Check your list of posts.
Skip, I could have. I'm sorry if you were falsely accused. When you said George W. Bush I kind of lost my mind.
as I understand it the christianity forum is to discuss christianity, of itself its not a forum just for christians but rather a forum for anyone to discuss things related to christianity . The same would apply to say the islam forum that I mainly post on, its not a forum for muslims but rather a forum for anyone interested in discussing islam . now there are lots of sites that are either a specific religion or anti religion. Ive posted on both and they can be a bit biased , so for example on lots of religious sites you have very hard moderation if your anti their religion, there are some areas you cant discuss and I would imagine on some anti religion sites religious people may have a hard time to . anyway thats why its ok to have anti christian threads, its sort of nuetral ground . if people want a christian only forum they could either lobby for one to be set up linked to the main christianity forum, or pay for a private forum . I would say that christians are not alone in having their religion challenged, other religions get the same treatment, I and some other people attack islam quite a lot too so things are fair people are not just picking on them
http://libsyn.com/media/pointofinquiry/4-7-06.mp3 I strongly recommend listening to the interview above. http://www.pointofinquiry.org/ for other shows in the same series. It's some of the best material I've ever heard in audio form from any type of medium.
My point is and was that on the front page of this forum things get out of hand. No other forum concerning religion is so overwhelmed with anti posts. I don't see why we deserve any less respect than anybody else. Check the forums for other religions.
Damn, Portal. You posted without mentioning Katrina. You're slipping, dude. Anyway, back on point... 5 years ago many would have hung and dragged Muslims through the streets. Now, thanks to the Jesus people in power ignoring the masses (and yes, you are a minority) opnely insulting our intelligence and taking away our rights and freedoms, it's your turn in the barrel. And everybody gets a turn in the barrel. Want to avoid this kind of confrontation? Become a Buddhist. No one hates them. Well, except the Jesus people.
First off I mentioned Katrina to make a point and a point only. I don't "throw" that around and your insinuation of such is uncalled for. Oh, and I'm very familiar with Buddhism having been the member of a local Sangha at one point and true Jesus people don't hate anyone. I have friends of all kinds of religions. I do mean friends. I'm not talking about someone I exchanged pleasentries with one or twice. I expected that the hippy forum was going to be full of love and tolerance for all people. I didn't think people would jump on posts and berate other people for their beliefs. Even better what they thought they believed. Then make personal attacks that have little to nothing to do with the conversation at hand. What puzzles me is this very same thing is what most people hate about a bunch of mainstream "Christians". But, it's cool when you do it in reference to Christianity. Then it's different? BTW I abhor people using the name of Jesus to belittle other people worse than any of you.
There is a Christian forum here, check it out, it's Bree's. It also has more rules than this one, to keep the conversation civil. It's quite good, btw! (Good job, Bree!). Also the Islam forum has far more anti-Islam posts than the Xtian forum has anti-xtian (i think). Buddhists don't go around making war on others or prostelitizing. They do beg a lot however... When is the last time you heard a Buddhist preach war? What famous Buddhist wars or crusades can you mention? In fact the most violent a Buddhist gets is when they set themselves on fire to protest a war or other inhumanity. It is TRULY a peaceful religion, unlike Xtianity and Islam, which are completely hypocritical about peace.
I'm not here to put down or judge Buddhists. I think many Buddhists are beautiful people. I can say though if you do your homework you'll find people do evil things in the name of every religion. People also do charity work and great things in the name of every religion. If you want answers to these questions simply Google them.
I think that the problem here is exactly what you state, that that this is a hippy forum. Hippies are among the most tolerant people you'll meet....but don't mistake it as being sweet and loving to all. Hippies protest, hippies don't conform, and the only thing hippies seem to be intolerant towards intolerance. And chrisitianity is ALL ABOUT intolerance these days (hell, any day). American mainstream christianity is so UN-HIPPY it isn't even funny. It's depressing.
Unlike some of you, I was around when the first "jesus freaks" appeared, and I remember their impact upon society and the hippy movement. Their attempts to prostelitize hippies were pretty much rebuffed in general. They were seen "laying a trip" on people. They were made fun of and marginalized by most hippies. Although they did manage to convert some. They even started religious communes, the most notorious of which were nothing but perverted cults led by charismatic people who abused their followers. Maybe some of the oldtimers here can tell ya about them. But I felt that they were pretty harmless overall, and as they were still part of the movement and into some of the other ideals we shared, they deserved a place on these forums. But they still have a lot to answer for! Look at what they did to Dylan!
I think it's unfair, though, to say "Christianity is about intolerance." Sure, there are Christians who interpret things in a fairly intolerant way. Sure, there are a lot of them. But to say that Christianity is intolerant is like saying that America hates the Middle East. By looking at some of our representatives actions, you might make that statement, but certainly not everyone does.
Sera there's millions of liberal Christians today protesting the same things you are. MILLIONS. Check the UCC website. Find out about Jim Wallis. Check what's going on in The Episcopalian and Methodist faiths. Check all the independant churches springing up. Or just turn on certain televangelists and keep stereotyping all Christians as hateful bigots that are more worried about ending gay marriage than feeding the poor. Again...I'm not that dude. Sorry to disappoint. Skip sorry about Dylan bro. Oh, and Creed.
I personally have experienced very little charity and shitloads of intolerance from the american christian community. Come on, pick a random church to sit in on sunday and all you'll hear is how bad everyone else is. If you aren't christian you worship satan. If you aren't christian you love to "sin". If you aren't heterosexual you shouldn't be able to marry your partner. The telletubies are gay, spongebob is gay. Protestors at funerals cheering the deaths of soldiers. Church members getting kicked out for voting for Kerry. Beating up the Easter Bunny in front of children (anyone remember that little incident?). Violent TV shows are the subject of thousands of FCC complaints from christian orginizations, but you should definitely take your family to see The Passion of the Christ! Christianity is an "us" and "them" religion. Either you are with them or you are a sinful worldy person deserving of eternal damnation. Sure, they'll be charitible, but only if you'll convert, or at least put up with their message. Christian adoption agencies make you sign pledges that you are a christian and will raise the baby christian before letting you adopt a parentless, needy child...ya, that sure is tolerant. Christian sponsored orphanages are ready and willing to rush into a devastated area to take children as long as they can convert them from their culture and religion to a christian one. Christianity has no respect for the beliefs of others, it's all part of the doctrine of their religion. Everyone should be christian or face punishment. Either you are good and a christian, or you are bad and going to hell.
I know much, much more of christianity then what I hear from televanglists. My entire lifetime has been a strong experience deep into the waters of christianity. Hell, I almost went to Bob Jones! Edit: I do have to make a concession here. My In-laws are methodist, and they are some of the kindest, open-minded people I know. Their pastor is also a really nice guy. In fact, their church preforms gay wedding ceremonies. If more of america's mainstream christianity was like this I would not have as much a problem as I do with the religion in general. Unfortunatly, that doesnt seem to be the case.