Why do people refuse to let go of the illusion that their vote counts?

I was just curious because her post reminded me of my friend.

 

Right, but the point is that once you have been freed from the cave you have no way of knowing that the world outside of the cave isn't also an illusion. Or, in other words, Zion could have been just as fake as The Matrix.

You're not free. You're just a slave to a different system than the people you're talking about.

 

Every point of view is an illusion, in that it doesn't represent the whole... it's just one way of seeing it. Arguing about whose point of view is RIGHT or WRONG is the part that makes us slaves. It's one thing to share what we see, but in the course of arguing about it we become stuck and enslaved ourselves. Hahaha!

Ultimately, none of this matters at all. Who cares? So what? Empires rise and fall, rise and fall, people are born & die, born & die, and the world spins round and round and round....... eace:

 

I continue voting because I've seen and participated in the electoral process personally a few times on voting day and surrounding an election.

I've helped count and tally ballots. I know that my vote counts and is counted fairly in my country because I've worked for the elections agency several times in both federal and provincial elections.

I vote because I agree fundamentally with the idea of an elected government permitted to execute law with legitimacy within a limited process of power and control.

 

What exactly does that mindstate achieve.. besides as a one liner to score with emo girls?

 

I don't refuse to let go of my beliefs that my vote counts. I'm always re-evaluating and contemplating how effective or ineffective my vote will be if I make it.

I weigh the pros and cons and make a decision. I have abstained from voting, and I have felt as though my vote won't count for much and based my decisions on voting by making up my own mind.

My rights are my rights, and I like to think that I make good choices with my decisions when it comes to voting.

There are people in this world who live without a voice, are unable to vote, and I find that I am a responsible person capable of making a decision on voting to elect someone into office, someone of my choosing, someone who will give a voice to the people that I wish to see have one.

It's a value and a privilege to be able to vote for a pretty varied number of candidates from my part of the world on our ballots. I like voting because it allows me personally to take some kind of shared responsibility for promoting change and progress. I'm fond of the idea of voting and the potential that it has to make political and social inequalities ameliorate.

J'y pense que le système débrouille assez bien.

 

LOL! That statement wasn't intended to score anything with anybody. (What in the heck are emo girls??... Emotional?)

As far as what it could achieve... well that depends on the person reading it. For some it could be helpful to put things in perspective, to gain some objectivity about something that seems OH SO important.

For others, it would make no difference whatsoever. In which case I would suggest they simply ignore it.

 

interesting thought i ripped off of south park:
how do you know that the idea that your vote doesn't count is not in and of itself a conspiracy perpetuated by the elite in an attempt to disenfranchise voters?

 

Okay, so lead the revolution already.

 

haha.

texas..

 

Be an individual, be confident in the life you lead and I think everything will turn out fine.

we don't need et another group.

we just need individuals throughout the globe who are sentient who can think for themselves.

yes who will help their fellow man in need in stead of being split with these divide and conquer schemes, but who is free thinking.

if you need to be led, well, you have a ways to go.

do your own research, lead your own life.

 

I think you missed the point of my post. Doing research and being a free thinker are all fine and dandy, but if you never get off the couch and do something, then nothing changes. Complaining on the internet does not count as "Doing something".

 

something like that


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AOOBdszjG_4&feature=related

 

I beg to differ the internet is turning out to be a more important communications tool than the telephone or regular mail. What exactly is it you would like us all to be out doing? I know there is a certain segment out there that is looking for violent revolution. I don't think that's the answer anymore than invading Iraq was an answer to anything, but the PNAC's agenda.

We have a Constitution, we need to as a nation enforce it at every level, including government.

 

New Jersey just had a tiny little primary election in May, funny the presidential primary was in February.

I received ablut 30 pieces of mail and a dozen pre-recorded phone calls urging me to go to the polls and vote.

My vote must be valuable to somebody. I wonder how much all of those postcards and phone calls cost?

 

I just finsihed watching Democracy Now, and the story on Bill Moyers:

http://www.democracynow.org/2008/6/9/moyers

He talks about how deregulation and market politics have lead us to the state where, media and reporters only report what they are paid to report. Is there any surprise that when we've reached this state elections for thinking people are mere shams of what should be a true democracy. But throwing up you hands and saying It's no use! serves no one but those that have the most influence and power already.

It's time to stand up and say our constitution can't be bought! I only have my vote, I refuse to give it up. I will continue until things are better to vote every incumbent out of office. If lobbyists can't count on long term politicians for influence, perhaps then our constitution will live up to it's promise.

 

So you think a vote cast in the midst of a corrupt system, for a pawn of the corrupt system, will bring about a change in the corrupt system?

 

Barring electronic voting machines--they should be banned.Your vote does count.The problem is the pathetic choice of candidates you have to vote for that actually have a chance at being elected Pres.Also this absurd 2 year process to elect a Pres. in the US must be shortened by at least oh 1 and a half years.There is no reason it should take more than 6 months.Its great for the BS media,but very bad in almost every other way.Thats one of the reasons the system has become so corrupt,and the laughing stock of the free world.

 

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