Why do we ignore the homeless?

Discussion in 'Politics' started by QueerPoet, Oct 29, 2010.

  1. The Imaginary Being

    The Imaginary Being PAIN IN ASS Lifetime Supporter

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    I suppose we just take a different approach to hopefully come to the same outcome, is all.
     
  2. creedlespeek

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    Man, I had a bang-up post and with the click of a button, it's gone. Here's my attempt to say something halfway as good:

    I can only speak about this from the perspective of a nursing student, but I see how we paint the homeless as drug seekers and bums who seek rooms in hospitals as a free hotel. And it happens, and it's frustrating, but we still are obligated to provide the best quality of care to all patients. If someone says they have pain, they have pain, and you are morally obligated to treat it to the best of your ability while not harming the patient. Does that mean if they come in with a headache and you're pretty sure the person is a routine drug seeker you see almost every shift you give a big shot of Demerol without question? Nope. What it does mean is that you open up the lines of communication between the physician and yourself, the patient and yourself, and the physician and the patient. That means no accusations, no judgment, just lots of open-ended questions, listening, and patient education. It's an opportunity to work with social services to get the best possible solution.

    The greatest problem doesn't lie with the homeless people. It lies with social services, medical professionals, educators, and their care planning for seeing that these people can have as complete a life as possible.
     
  3. odon

    odon Slightly Popular

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    Man, I hate when that hapens. I copy posts that are long now.
     
  4. The Imaginary Being

    The Imaginary Being PAIN IN ASS Lifetime Supporter

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    I hate writing long posts, always try and write small amounts.
     
  5. TipsyGypsy

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    I think it's good that you did something to show awareness. It's more than many do. What I meant was that there are people who will never change their way of thinking about certain issues, unless perhaps they experience it first hand.

    The good thing about the Big Issue is that it gives people a little more control. Although the money they have to pay to even begin to sell it, stops a lot of people to taking that option.
     
  6. QueerPoet

    QueerPoet Senior Member

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    In the USA, the prison system has replaced mental health care homes. Unless you are well off. The mentally ill poor are routinely placed behind bars, simply for acting erratic (what would one expect from someone that is suffering from a serious mental illness). :confused: Bottom line: Money talks.

    QP
     
  7. The Imaginary Being

    The Imaginary Being PAIN IN ASS Lifetime Supporter

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    Yeah, I guess that is pretty awful. We have the NHS here, so I suppose it's difficult to comprehend our differences there.

    I know the NHS can be a pain, but I would hate to have to pay for urgent health-care, it seems immoral.
     
  8. QueerPoet

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    Your post is spot on. I like how your mind works. :2thumbsup:

    QP
     
  9. Olympic-Bullshitter

    Olympic-Bullshitter Banned

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    But when wearing boat attire and oversized backpacks in a well-to-do neighbor, somewhere near the water folks will sometimes stop and offer a ride or food. Then it's time to cast off the lines.
     
  10. QueerPoet

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    Same thing here. Then we have the cops treating very ill people like criminals. Hell, they don't need to be tossed in jail (and wind up with a criminal record). They need compassionate care. What a crazy world. This is what our tax dollars are spent/wasted on folks. :confused:

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  11. QueerPoet

    QueerPoet Senior Member

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    Hell, at least you gave it a go. Most don't. That says a lot about you as a person. Chin up!

    :2thumbsup:

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  12. QueerPoet

    QueerPoet Senior Member

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    Right on. You just summed it up. Big time. :) I mean, isn't that why we pay our wretched taxes each year? Go figure. :confused:

    QP

    P.S. Sorry you lost your original post. But this one was quite insightful. :sunny:
     
  13. stacy lulu

    stacy lulu yeeeaah buddy

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    well the reason I ignore them is that most of them tend to rob you when you get money out. so fuck em :2thumbsup:
     
  14. TipsyGypsy

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    Strange that, I've met many and never once been robbed by them :rolleyes:
     
  15. stacy lulu

    stacy lulu yeeeaah buddy

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    its chicago dear ;) the cleanest looking people even trick you if you arent from around there.

    a lot of fake bums too.

    few bums are chill as hell though.
     
  16. Piaf

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    Same here.
    Sometimes they don't even ask for money, they ask you to buy them meds or food. If I have money, I'll help out.
     
  17. TipsyGypsy

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    I'm sure it is dear.
     
  18. stacy lulu

    stacy lulu yeeeaah buddy

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    i remember this one "bum" on the side of the street, sat with what looked like a dead cat, had a sign up saying "Feed me-i just lost my cat" my sister thought it was all sad.... I look closely and the cats tail moved side to side quickly. lmao

    and you piaf, the one who gave me a pointless neg, you move to chicago and see how dirty and fake the people are, hell, you'll fit right in
     
  19. Monkey Boy

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    Agree. I just assume they're telling the truth even if they're not. Innocent until proven guilty sort of thing. It's worse if they actually are being honest and don't get help.
     
  20. The Imaginary Being

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    do you still believe in magic?
     

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