Why do you believe the Bible is the Word of God?

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  1. OlderWaterBrother

    OlderWaterBrother May you drink deeply Lifetime Supporter

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    Not every one holds to the idiotic view of the creation account that you seem to hold to.
    The ones about Cyrus come to mind.
    A lack of evidence is not proof something did not happen. Many things written of in the Bible had no "proof" and yet time and time again proof has been found.

    the Chaldean city of Ur has been uncovered; the Siloam Inscription carved at one end of King Hezekiah’s conduit, or aqueduct has been discovered; Babylon’s fall to Cyrus the Great in 539 B.C.E. is related in the Nabonidus Chronicle; details in the book of Esther have been confirmed by inscriptions from Persepolis; the discovery of the palace of King Xerxes (Ahasuerus) at Shushan, or Susa; an inscription found in 1961 in the ruins of a Roman theater at Caesarea proved the existence of Roman governor Pontius Pilate

    I could go on but I guess that until proof is found for the "blitzkrieg-style invasion of Canaan" you will not see all the other archaeological evidence that supports the Bible.

    The Bible does not need archaeological evidence to prove that it is true but still it has a lot of it. :)
     
  2. Anaximenes

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    And that goes double for the Russians stressed to out of the ordinary practice on 'THEIR' environmental (half ass social , half ass technological) ethics, which the government has lost control of. Are they reading the bible in Moscow this morning?:sunny:
     
  3. Asmodean

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    Well, it is sunday morning after all. They might do so out of tradition :p
     
  4. Okiefreak

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    Most scientists do.
    You mean the one in Deutero Isaiah, written after the fact.
    A lack of evidence is not proof something did not happen. Many things written of in the Bible had no "proof" and yet time and time again proof has been found.

    I don't think there's any controversy over those discoveries at all. but they no more prove the truth of the Bible than the archaeological discovery of Troy proves the Iliad. The ones I was talking about were the biblical accounts of the conquest of Canaan. Or Exodus.
     
  5. OlderWaterBrother

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    Do what? Believe the Earth was created in 7/24 hour days? I don't think many scientists believe that but it seems from your repeatedly saying it you seem to think the Bible says it.
    Yeah right and the copyists that were copying Isaiah and counting every letter and every word to make sure that they didn't accidentally add or leave out even a letter of the sacred text, some how missed the addition of this whole prophecy when they weren't looking. [​IMG]
    I never said that there was any controversy over those discoveries now but before they were discovered there were.

    As for the ones you are talking about, I already pointed out; "A lack of evidence is not proof something did not happen."

    In any case it seems you have failed to understand the OP. It seems you are here more to tell us why the the Bible is not the word of God rather tell us why you think it is.
     
  6. thedope

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    1. The most languages into which the same book has been translatedis The Way to Happiness by L. Ron Hubbard (USA), which can be read in 70 languages as of 2010, including Hindi, Samoa and Uzbek.Apr 6, 2010
    Next, please stop by again.
     
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  7. OlderWaterBrother

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    As of November 2014 the full Bible has been translated into 531 languages, and 2,883[1] languages have at least some portion of the Bible.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bible_translations
     
  8. thedope

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    Very well, There are roughly 6,500 spoken languages in the world today.

    2,883 of those only have some portion of the material.

    That leaves the majority of languages without any access.

    So the bible is not universally accessible.

    So if gods word touches everyone then the bible is not gods only word.

    By the way, people publish and distribute books.
     
  9. thedope

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    There is also the fact that much of the world is illiterate.
     
  10. OlderWaterBrother

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    The Bible has been widely translated, and today it is readable in the languages of 97 percent of the world’s population.

    Still, “the Bible has not been translated into even half the languages spoken on earth.” Why not? Because relatively few people speak those languages, and translating the Bible into them is a challenge. Also, many people are bilingual, and if the Bible is not printed in one of their languages, they can read it in another.
    Get a life.
     
  11. OlderWaterBrother

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    That is why Christians go to these people and talk to them in person and also why Christian conduct literacy classes.
     
  12. thedope

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    So still not accessible to all.

    What does get a life mean in response to what I said?

    Fact is you can account for the distribution of the bible with the personal zealousness of relative few. They are mass produced and there are far more lay people than missionaries.

    So why are there illiterate people if the bible is so inclusive and all reaching?

    You do make an important point about oral transmission. If there is no living spirit to translate there is no integrity in the information which is why the teacher student relationship exists. The bible does not give or impart the authority of living spirit.

    No words from the mouth of gods messenger, no message from god messenger.
     
  13. thefutureawaits

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    And this good news of the kingdom will be preached in the entire inhabited earth and then the end will come.
     
  14. OlderWaterBrother

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    As I said any that do not have access to the Bible in a language they will have a person come to them and personally translated it for them so no will be left out. But in any case that was not the point being made, the point is that there is no other book that can even come close to the [SIZE=12pt]availability of the bible and that makes for one reason for believing the Bible is God's Word.[/SIZE]
    It means that once again you are trying to go off on one of your meaningless tangents and I've got better things to do.
    So what?
    So now illiteracy is the Bible's fault.
    [SIZE=12pt]Once again, this has nothing to do with the point being made, that the Bible is the most widely translated and distributed book known to man thus make it a candidate for being God's Word.[/SIZE]
     
  15. thedope

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    That is not true. We have the internet.

    A good reason for believing in words is because they are symbols of conditions. The world itself is created in gods word. You give yourself reason to venerate a book and miss the presence of god's word in all things.

    I don't go off on tangents, I speak consistently with the voice of the holy spirit. You don't have time for it? Well you have all the time there is available to you and you have free will.
     
  16. thedope

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    Oral transmission not bible publication.
     
  17. OlderWaterBrother

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    Yep, the internet is a book and has been around for thousands of years.
     
  18. OlderWaterBrother

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    (Deuteronomy 17:19) “And it must continue with him, and he must read in it all the days of his life, in order that he may learn to fear Jehovah his God so as to keep all the words of this law and these regulations by doing them;
    (Psalm 1:2) But his delight is in the law of Jehovah, And in his law he reads in an undertone day and night.
    (1 Timothy 4:15) Ponder over these things; be absorbed in them, that your advancement may be manifest to all [persons].
    (James 1:25) But he who peers into the perfect law that belongs to freedom and who persists in [it], this [man], because he has become, not a forgetful hearer, but a doer of the work, will be happy in his doing [it].
     
  19. IMjustfishin

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    this is a pretty open and shut case, i mean all Christians agree that the bible was written by human beings. period, end of story. nothing more to argue about.

    the part that can be argued is weather or not the spirit of god entered these countless men that wrote the bible and somehow influenced them to write.

    archeological evidence proves nothing except for the time and place it was written.

    as for the prophecies, its bullshit that relies on vagueness and interpretation, remember when nostradamus predicted the 9/11 attacks?
     
  20. thefutureawaits

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    Really? What prophecies are you speaking of? Be specific
     

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