fearing acid is like fearing the boogy man, and once you do see it, you realize, the boogy man aint as bad as they say he is.
At about the middle of the peak, I got very introspective and started writing. Looking back at what I wrote, it seemed sort of split personality-esque, but I knew it was me talking to me, I was just being silly with myself. I've been keeping a journal that I write in seldomly for about four years, and I started going back through that. Every so often I would stop writing and look around, and even though I was only about 6-8 hours into it, I was having very mild visuals. It's almost as if the trip would shift gears, because as I stopped thinking, the visuals would come back. I don't mean that I could turn them on and off, but I could control them in the sense that as long as I was thinking about my past, visually things were quite normal. I actually like how you worded that better, how you let the trip control you, because that whole section of introspection I hadn't really intended on doing. I pulled out my journal, started writing, then all the sudden I found myself looking back through it, something I've never been able to get myself to do. I would say that the theme of the night was fate and inevitability, because I was going to wait until Saturday, but as I was walking to turn in an application, my mind went "You ARE tripping AS SOON as you get back." Saturday should be more fun though, apparently I have more left than I thought, because I thought I took three on Tuesday, but apparently it was only one and a corner that had broken off in the mail. I have around 8, planning on taking them all on saturday. Not quite the ten strip that I said I wanted to take eventually, but this will make me a part of the *at least* five strip club.
for those whosaid its impossible to take a trip & not come back..your very wrong i've known a few who were permenantly screwed up from just 1 trip..& i mean really screwed up & i know others who have tripped a ton..& are permenantly tripping in a way... lsd should be feared..its not a plaything..its a tool of mind expantion..& expanding your mind too fast will be like over inflating a baloon..it will pop a popped mind isnt so ez to put back together...
Well what I meant is that at a certain point, tryin to control the whole thing becomes really hard...Personally I start feeling sick and like my body is melting into kind of circles...Time seems like its stopping, it seems like thoughts are slipping away , its just, consciousness. Thats what I meant to let the trip control you. You just lay down and let it do whatever it has to do to you, because it will get rock n roll if ya go on the streets. But maybe your little world is made out of gold and cant be sold, as hendrix would say.
I don't agree that it should be feared... respected, absolutely, but not feared, that's only priming the mind for a negative experience
well ithink theres a place for a healthy fear but not tothe point of being scared so much it influences the trip the fear should come b4 u concider tripping..& u shouldnt trup until the fears dispelled.. meanning you know your mind well enough to know it wont let you freak the fuck out
Tell us more about these permanantly screwed types. I know acid can have some serious effects.. but perma screwed after one trip? How did they become screwed?
well i imagine they wernt all that strong to begin with..but 1 kid i worked with jumped off a bridge decided he was god cause he survived..then stared at the sun for 8 hours he had a blank spot in his vission hed focus on u claiming it helped him absorb souls he also had this habbit of constantly loudly suckin in air through his nose claimed he only inhaled (except to babble semi coherently) he said he was going to eventualy inhale the universe yes he was still fairly functional a a human..but he was pretty permenantly fucked as ever being semi normal again there are others..& getting that screwed off 1 hits rare, but lsd is putting your mind through a crazy trip & it can do anything to your mind in the right circumstances ive seen this god complex thing lead to some really permenant craziness from surviving acts of stupidity a few times.. & i'm sure others have had theyre minds screwed even more by other shit in fact there ised to be someone on here who used shrooms & the suggestion of demonic pressence as a way to completely control & fuck up the minds of girls hed get involved with & they'd need complete deprogramming but thats sorta off topic sorta the point is just that the drug desserves respect..& u should be aware that sometimes bad things CAN happen alrgo alotta ppl can handle a few thousand even maybe over a lifetime..others shouldnt do just 1 ppl should understand that its not something u should just siggest to every kid u see without really knowing them well enough to be sure theyre minds are ready for the experience
ahhh no dont let me do that... lol just take it when u know your ready.. not just casualy its a wonderful thing for sure.. but can be scary too for some just be respectful of its power & doit in the right time & place or..if u fear it there may be reason to fear it & maybe its not for you only u can know for sure..but dont assume cause everyone does it & seems ok that it is ok for everyone its an amazing thing..but some cant handle it ..& even those who can could have that 1 trip that just screws with them.. my 1 freind did a puddle he could drown in..the guy filled both hands..guessing like 5 or more vials ..he was wandering the dessert for 4 days without food or water..luckily they found him..it was 4 months before someone noticed he wasnt tripping anymore god probly was closer to 15-20 vials he said his hands were overflowing hes never been the same he has no control of what he says anymore to the point that hes lost all his freinds by asking theyre girlfreinds to do shit..right in front of the bf's hes constantly mumbling to himself & not making sence & if u make the mistake of actualy listening to him u regret it instantly hes hit on old ladies in wigs who would make u gag hes just totaly unable to control what he says anymore damn dude hits on brides at theyre weddings & shit just cause he cant stop himself... hes 1 of those dudes that if hes pulled over & asked if he had weed hed say yea but i havent been able to find it lately im kinda stoned..can you help me look for it even though he knows he should just say no hes lucky tho cause hes kinda pathetic..so at least gets pitied instead of beatten alot but hes like my 1 freind ive known the longest & i can hardly stand hangin with him anymore but at least at 42 he finaly moved out of his parents basement & into a car oh but wait wasnt i sayin yea its not scary if u respect it..& know its for u or not
i think that if you have a place where you can be undisdurbed for many many hours you shouldnt have any problems with any psychedelic. theres really no physical danger from lsd, so why not get deprogramed, for a while you might even be convinced that ur finaly in ur natural default mind stage. but hey thats why theres a tomoro and a moving world out there so u can get back into the swing of things. u just cant unsee something once uve seen it, so for those of u who dont wana see how the sasuage is made because it tasts too good u should be the ones that have the most fun... talk about ur experiences esp ones that r still with u and u should eventualy find room to incorparate them in ur life n b ok or just forget n move on, after all its just drugs people, theyre there to fuck twist n bend u up
hahaha omg yea u said it ahhh 1 suggestion id make..find & read a book called..barefoot in the head... if u can read that boook & have a clue what its about & saying..your definately ready to trip..or have already tripped too much..lol
Soaringeagle- i've read alot about LSD, and understand that the only danger is mental, be prepared for it. No problem, my first time iwth shrooms was 9 grams.. it was the best yet i've expirienced. BUT i notice that many of ur posts you tell us abotu some guys/friends that took acid and became "insane" bubled some shit... wandered dessert for 4 days... did stupid shits.. stared at sun.. wtf is this ? were they fuckgin retards to do that? or how did happen.. normal perons woulnd do sucha thing,,, even more acid wont make person crazy, some kind of insane after takign it no matter how many hits... ?
its largly dependent on the prerson yes everyone reacts differet i've just been around thousands & thousands & thousands of tripping ppl yea most trips are good & only a few have had really bad experiences that had lasting effects but some ppl just arent meant for it.. & 1 hit can really be bad for the wrong person.. just sayin respect it when u been around it as much as i have you see alotta crazy shit most good yes..but its the bad u gotta be aware of & not be nieve and assume every trip will be sunshine & roses for everyone
But that's not "not coming back from a trip," that's being negatively affected by the trip, in the same way that someone could be negatively effected by watching someone be murdered right in front of them. I'm sorry, maybe it's just me and the way my head works, but I don't seem to have a problem working with acid during a trip. I took 8 gel tabs that I know were pretty good (my buddy and the guys he got them from all had full blown ego death, melty world shit, all that) and I just had really, really fractalized patterns. Yes, 2ces, the other night when I felt like I was able to control the visuals to an extent it was only like maybe one and a half gel tabs, and near the end of the peak, which for me (based on past experience) is always characterized by a switch to almost no visuals but either a really contemplative or very socially funny mood, depending on whether I'm by myself or with other people. Maybe it's because I want to find out what LSD can do to me and that I'm unintentionally blocking out the trip..but I've heard that's exceedingly difficult to do. Or maybe my doses really aren't that great (also not likely)....I'm now wondering what the ramifications are of having a very strong ego and wanting to let go, yet having a hard time doing so. I want to find out what "too much" is, but what if I need way more than most people need to? Maybe LSD isn't really what I think it is, and what I REALLY want to have happen, LSD doesn't do to people? I'm not saying that I would give LSD to anyone, in fact yesterday while in the midst of 8 doses I had my two trippin buddies (sober, never tripped before, only experience with acid is being with me at a party when I was coming down two other times) askin me what it's like, what's this what's that...and I told the one kid who thought he might want to that it's something he has to consider.....but man my mind is DIFFERENT.....I almost want to walk out on the limb and say that I'd probably only REALLY be satisfied with a thumprint....or maybe I'm just young and dumb.
If you think you'd only REALLY be satisfied with a thumbprint.. I would go out on a limb also, and say I think that is a pretty young and dumb thing to say I'm surprised you don't get much of 8 hits, but at the same time, I don't think you're wrong in what you think LSD should be able to do either. Not in terms of intensity anyway. If you think you're never going to get anything more than heavy fractals, you're very wrong Dammnnitt... I need to stop hanging out on acid forums! I know I shouldn't do more, and I've been off it for months now, but the temptation is growing stronger
I don't think I meant to say ONLY a thumprint...though if I would LOVE an opportunity to try experience that. I think that what I'm looking for is some sort of high dose experience. It's not that I think I won't experience anything but heavy fractals...other odd things have definitely happened, what I'm saying is I'm suprised that 8 didn't seem really all that odd. I know that there's so much that can be experienced...and I'm wondering why the experiences I've had don't seem to compare to what I've heard about. I'm not saying I want some Fear and Loathing shit to happen, I understand that a lot of that was exagerrated or a straight up fabrication, and that a good majority of it also was not LITERAL but what they felt, or a result of a combination of drugs.....Am I doing something wrong?