Why does God hate Africa?

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Everything in our universe is circular in nature. Everything rotates, it has nothing to do with a god or gods, it has everything to do with the nature of the beast, which is life and death. If you know your evolution, we Human Beings (the early Homo Habilis, Homo Erectus) migrated out of Africa the mother of us all, the land that created us, and gave us life! and now come full circle Africa is now the land of death and destruction. But it is like that everyday, everywhere in the world. Life and Death. Especially in Africa, the Hunter and the Prey. But, it us now the Homo Sapien that allows our mother land to be destoyed, with over priced prescription drugs, racial discrimination, ethnic cleansing, this is all by our hand. If everyone one in the world were part of a collective thought it would be paradise here on our planet, but everyone is blinded by something else, something that I dont know how to explain.

 

I don't believe in God but if I did I might say that he has alot more respect for the Africans than white americans. Those white people murdered the native americans and enslaved the Africans. Time alone will tell where the paths we are on will lead. I, for one, think that Africans have a lot more character than your average white american. Spirituality too. Africa has the fastest growing christian popultion in the world. The Africans are strong people and will do just fine if we stop killing them and don't destroy the planet so much that they can't live there anymore. Sure it is tough there, but beautiful also. I hope they have the will power and intelligence to learn from our mistakes and create something fitting.

 

but I do know that the slaughter in Rwanda was pretty much BLACK on BLACK with none of your evil white american involved. (of which i'm one.)

ps: I don't think you have any right to talk about the attributes of a creature you don't believe exists. MORE how strange that you give Him your seemingly most highest gifts and qualities. How wonderful. But I do believe in God and I do think He may have some of those attributes. I also think He's very funny.

pps: Do you think they are all Christians because they are primitive and STUPID?? Is that what you think? Maybe in 100 years they'll grow out of it?

 

I think the slave trade was much helped by african chiefs as well..not too say the nasty europeans were no less guilty..

I think the developing countries such as africa have a evangelical view of christianity..that is mostly 150 200 years outdated.. their faith is 'primitive' not them..maybe in a hundred years they will be as 'enlightened' about christianity as the europeans that took the blasted faith over their in the first place.

'yeah but i was not talking too you' ... ok sorry , just wanted too add.

 

I appreciate having a solid bloke such as yourself back up my post.

Here's soemthing else for those interested in Africa (or Bill Gates) http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/story?id=506354&page=2

PeterJennings spends an hour w/Bill Gates. Inneresting.

 

And African leaders continue to sell their people 'down the river'. Like everywhere, there are the the good, the bad, and the ugly. I think alot of Africans embrace Christianity because in some way it soothes their pain and suffering. There is a saying in Africa about how the missionaries came to their land with the bible, took the land and left the bible. The guns were also left here and continue to be a problem. Alot of problems in Africa are the result of the artificial boundaries that were created when the european powers carved up the continent in the later part of the 19th century. In many respects, Africa is on its' way out of the stone age into the computer age in just over a hundred years. It is not to say they are ignorant or unsophisticated. Human nature and the principals of character developement and society are fairly similar around the world. But there are differences. Americans are overweight and as a culture it is sick. Look at the cancer rates. As I said earlier, time will show where the paths we are on will lead. Generally, from my experience, the people I have come in contact while living in Africa have a healthier constitution than Americans. This is amid all the death and destruction that has and continues to occur on this continent. Maybe Darwin was right?

 

Its a Shame whats Still going On In Africa, There Still Facing Abuse ,

 

I AM WITH YOU

RUBBISH...you lost me..

 

Smlchance, I believe the answer to your "I give a shit" question (not!) , is in your pathetic excuse for a signature.

 

That is completly unfounded and based on your pathetic excuse for understanding of some ones point of view..

'anything but bush' .. fuck off and think for your self for a change, see i can be open too blinkered thinking as well.

 

Firstly, what you just wrote made no sense. I do think for myself ALL THE TIME and what I'm trying to do is get Smlchance to think for himself.

He is at a point where he believes "God punishes" therefore that actually answers his own question.

Also, Bush is the greatest living danger to mankind in exsistance at this time if you only opened YOUR eyes and I defend my right to say so all the time, every day, to open more eyes if I so choose.

Open to blinkered thinking? Um what does that mean? "as well". Matthew you are totally blinkered

 

Your open too the percieved view and the blinkered view of the masses...

How the hell do you know..??.i was again trying too say that with out asking your jumping too conclusions about some one.

Just answering your post with what you said..if it was complicated then sorry.

Based on absolute rubbish.. point out how and why, and i can tell you diffrent based on fact.. arrogant of me i guess , but sometimes cutting too the chase is needed .

 

from judging Bush to judging my motives. wow you must be some kinda high. (btw, that was a bush of your choosing. not necessarily the american president.) good luck w/that hajh request. I'd help you out if I were in AMS. don't be too quick to make friends w/ppl.

I DO NOT believe that "GOD punishes". My basic question was judging the paradigm by which we view life and truth and pain and goodness. I think if God punished, He would punish me. Maybe he will some day.

 

In my book, anyone who can see anything good about gw bush is
(i) blind
(ii) brainwashed
(iii) cannot care about anything, world, people, their children or others, anything.


- lets use logic
Smlchance You think God is good, that bush is good (and I know you mean gw). Yet gw bush hates. Pure and simple. He's the darkside. Ergo so does your God.

BTW, your question was "Why does God hate Africa?"

good=hate, ergo=an anomoly

Bad things happen - men can be bastards, sinners or saints


I believe the essence of God is everything positive. You imply God has forsaken Africa, turned His back; takes no direct action to rectify. Same the world over really. For God let's men make their own decisions. Free choice. He can help them individually if they choose to listen.
Mankind can choose to be saviours or sinners. He helps saviours and waits patiently for sinners to realize what they are doing.

It's all really sad I know.
So take up a cause to change it.

Matthew-want proof? Read my post in the globalization section on "DU" bombs.
Argue with me if you can.

 

God gave a free will to all mankind and everyone can choose to do the good thing or to do the bad thing... man has the choice to follow God or to follow his own will or the rules of the world... people can choose if they want to share their goods and money to to spend it for themselves... it´s enough for everyone - money, food, everything...

Maybe there are such a lot of christians in Africa, because of their situation they feel the need to get close to a God, who promises that HE cares for HIS children... it´s an inner peace to be with Jesus and a secure feeling to be at home... (Psalm 91)
It´s still OUR responsibility to share our goods and our money with the poor, God told uns how a succesful and happy community has to look like - if everyone starts to share, there will be more than enough for everyone.

Bush says he´s a christian, but he understood something wrong if he ever read the bible... :-((

 

(i) blind

NO
(ii) brainwashed

NO


(iii) cannot care about anything, world, people, their children or others, anything.

Now your just being insulting..of course i care.

Away from being sarcastic or ironic ... i am sure their are many reasons why Smlchance chose the words in the sig', your reasoning could be wrong .

God has nothing too do with the troubles of africa ..well thats not true i suppose.. but on a grand and fundemental level god has nothing to do with saviours or sinners, you will get up with the bible in your hand and wave it skyward and denounce evil doers i am sure. Well it is a very human reason why africa and other places are a mess.. god apart from messing with morales and peoples heads has realy nothing to do with it , not being true and all..

I know

I agree

Ok i will read that thread. 'Argue with me if you can' ?.. ok.but we have our minds made up already ..

 

shanti...shanti...
There is divinity everywhere, as much in goddess om as in me as in GW as in anna and smlchance and every starving person in Africa. If that divinity, the life force in us all, was not there, we would be corpses, nothing less. The same God is in Mother Teresa and George W. Yes some people hate. It is a flaw of their minds, ignorance. However the divine essence is higher than that, above the mind. When we become aware of that higher divinity in us, then we see it in others also and then we become love tiself.

The reason people anywhere suffer, is a result of their past karma. Of course suffering itself is subjective. To some being whipped is the ultimate pain, to others it is pleasurable. To me it is the worst sin to eat meat, but to others it is breakfast. All these dualities, pleasure pain, love-hate, joy-sorrow, etc are created by the mind. Rise above them to the divine and you will find that bliss is the essential nature of all beings. Suffering is only physical and mental. The body suffers, the mind suffers, but the infinite soul, atman, our true self, is ever blissful.

 

So 30,000 people dying of starvation weekly is bad karma on their part.. Now you can have what ever belief you wish.. but just imho thats the worst philosophy and the reason as soon as 'faith' is brought into such issues it becomes almost pompous.

I regonise dualities and your conveying a deep duality as well , that being probably a nice person but talking complete nonsense ... what your saying makes sense in a text book kind of way.. Going to sleep hungry and waking hungry, hearing concepts of the devine and karma would just piss me off.

 

Matthew,

I know what it is to be hungry. I have lived poverty in ways that you have only heard of in stories. It did not shake my faith.

And yes, it is the result of karma. That is NOT a reason to be apathetic to them, it is not a reason to allow people to suffer. It is our dharma, our duty to help people in need. At the same time we must not allow ourselves to be soured by the regular sights of suffering and pain that we come across. God is not capable of hate, God is love itself. Not only is it the karma of those who suffer to undergo that suffering, it is also a step in their spiritual growth, it is a step in the progress. This has borne out amply in my life, for from each time I have suffered great scars, from my father's alcoholism, to being abused as a child, to being thrown out of the home with my mother and brother when I was 3 years old, every moment of it proved to have a net positive result for me.

And so I reiterate that all suffering is only in the mind and the body. But we are neither the mind nor the body, they are just equipment through which we are functioning. To allow ourselves to be miserable because of their pain is like feeling agony because your toaster had a short circuit.

Our true nature is bliss and bliss alone. Nothing can ruffle that tranquility once it is found. If food and comfort gave happiness then every American and European would be living every moment in joy. But that is not true. Everywhere people suffer in different ways for different reasons. This is because we are constantly looking for happiness outside instead of making the correct attunement within, which is what is the source of all joy.