why does metal suck so hard?

Discussion in 'Heavy Metal' started by Telepath, Feb 12, 2011.

  1. Asmodean

    Asmodean Slo motion rider

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    I do not, I was just asking. Just because you have the heart of a two year old doesn't mean you can't get criticized on your flawed views on metal. Yes, I said your view's flawed. I respect everyones views on everything but when they're short sighted I like to point that out.
    Negativity and aggression are normal things and it's very normal to be inspired by it or use it as a lyrical or musical theme. It's ok to not like it, it's also you're right to perceive metal to be only hateful and aggressive but you will get righteously said you're wrong.
     
  2. Telepath

    Telepath Banned

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    Nobody has "flawed views", how can you even say that? Ridiculous. You don't know how much I know about metal music in the first place. I could be an expert; all I said was I DON'T LIKE IT AT ALL.
    I NEVER SAID IT WAS ALL HATEFUL AND AGGRESSIVE, but 90%+ of it sounds hateful and aggressive.
     
  3. Asmodean

    Asmodean Slo motion rider

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    I thought you agreed with this:

     
  4. Telepath

    Telepath Banned

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    Well, that is a true statement. I've been to metal shows, I know what he's talking about. I don't come from ignorance here.
     
  5. Asmodean

    Asmodean Slo motion rider

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    Well, the believe that you have to be an angry person to fully enjoy metal is ignorant.
     
  6. walsh

    walsh Senior Member

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    Depends what you mean by hateful. If I said oranges taste better than lemons, that might be considered hateful towards lemons, if lemons were humans. Ridiculous, no? But if humans were oranges and lemons, some of us being oranges and others being lemons, can metal really be hateful? Fruit can't feel no hate and besides, it's true - oranges really are better.
     
  7. Asmodean

    Asmodean Slo motion rider

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    Who cares, music can be about anything. Focussing on topics like hate and aggression doesn't have to mean anything. When an artist knows how to bring an emotion or whatever across that's great, some people just have a selective appreciation. Or observation. I don't really want to blame people that can't stand something for making a wrong observation on it, since I probably do the same sometimes (for example with hip hop or nu metal), but when you make an opinion based on a stereotype about something you don't like you can expect to be told it's nonsense.
     
  8. walsh

    walsh Senior Member

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    It's not a stereotype. Metal can't be about anything - any more than can reggae music be about the beauty of fascism, or rock climbing be about swimming, or a haircut can be about a table.
     
  9. Asmodean

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    I'm pretty sure metal can be and is about anything. Perhaps not about rastafari :D but it covers themes and moods from gore, hate and aggression to peace, love and critical views on society. True, the majority tend to choose for names and themes that seem aggressive but it's by far not metal as a whole. So seems like it's a stereotype to me. I mean there are whole subgenres in metal that have different themes.
     
  10. neuroptican

    neuroptican ...hadouken!

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    You aspire to the emotional capacity of a two year old? You can still be genuine and sincere while remaining emotionally complex. You can understand the wide spectrum of emotions and choose which to embrace. I enjoy feeling anger and pain occasionally, I think they are helpful in contrasting those brilliant moments of pure joy and happiness. Anyways, plenty of two year old's can be aggressive, I'm not sure you thought that statement completely through. And I think making this thread clearly shows you have some aggressive qualities, which I'm not saying is a bad thing.

    Uh, what? Metal can definitely be about love and beauty. Reggae can definitely be about fascism, torture, or anything. But you are right, rock climbing can't be about swimming and haircuts can't be about tables, though I have no idea how you think this is relevant haha.
     
  11. Telepath

    Telepath Banned

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    i HAVE SOME AGGRESSIVE QUALITIES, HUH? LOL WELL, i WON'T BE DENYING THAT! whoops, capslock.
     
  12. walsh

    walsh Senior Member

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    I'd love to hear a reggae band seriously promoting fascism.
     
  13. Asmodean

    Asmodean Slo motion rider

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    I'm aiming to create a reggae black metal band.
     
  14. DroneLore

    DroneLore h8rs gon h8, I stay based

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    metal may be the most misunderstood genre. overrated by many, unfairly maligned by many more. I believe the nature of metal is what makes such an arrangement inevitable.
     
  15. Alternative_Thinker

    Alternative_Thinker Darth Mysterious

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    I personally don't think anything sucks by default. Rather, it's just that different people have different views toward different genres. I love all types of music, metal included. The OP doesn't appreciate metal which is clear. She's allowed not to like it. But one thing she must keep in mind is that there is a lot of work, lot of love, that gets put into creating metal music(unless that band isn't serious about what they do, of course)...or ANY kind of music for that matter. This, she must respect at the very least if she doesn't like the genre.

    More sensible approach to this matter has been expressed by Meliai who remains respectful toward the genre and open-minded about being introduced to different types of metal while generally preferring other genres. All genres of music deserve respect, and I do mean ALL. I may favor certain types of music more than others myself, but that doesn't mean I don't respect what I don't normally listen to. I respect the genres the OP prefers, and I even respect the fact that she doesn't like metal. With that said, I DO find the APPROACH she's taken to express her view here a tad questionable.

    Just my opinion...
     
  16. Telepath

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    SNORE SNORE SNORE. As if I'm reading that crap.
    Metal can die in a big giant hole! Thanks! Bye!
     
  17. jmt

    jmt Ezekiel 25:17

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    can you die with it?
     
  18. Alternative_Thinker

    Alternative_Thinker Darth Mysterious

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    Well, I thought you wanted people to respond to your thread? o_O Anyway, my previous post consisted only of two paragraphs plus three words in the form of "Just my opinion" to close my response. I really didn't feel it was too boring to the point of snore-inducing. Sorry you have to feel the way you do... *shrug*
     
  19. Asmodean

    Asmodean Slo motion rider

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    She obviously has too much anger in her to enjoy metal.
     
  20. neuroptican

    neuroptican ...hadouken!

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    Let's do it! :D
     

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