Why does the media bash weed smokers!?

That rasta guy 'challenged your intelligence' after you said all that conceided stuff. Okay, enough with showing off our mental prowess, back to the fuckin' topic, please.

 

They bash stoners such as ourselfs becuase they are naive. They arent enlightened and beleive everything that their parents tell them. I hope eventually god will open their minds into new ideas.

 

Please, lets not bring 'god' into this. If anything, its to show the taxpayers that the money they spend (taxes) for the War On Drugs is actually going somewhere other than to line the Bush admin.'s pocket.

 

How are they naive? It's a buisness... they profit by not having drugs legal. The tobacco and alcohol industries will be destroyed if drugs were to be legalized. Plus, I do not think that law makers still siten to their parents (other than the president). Plus, what does god have to do with any of this?

 

Not really, he was calling me ignorant before that.

 

ha, congress makes the laws here. And nice one about our president.

 

I don't know what thread you are refering to, but in this one, I believe it was Ryoto.

 

Going back to the original topic about the ad, I haven't seen it, but I can tell it's bullshit.

"1 in every 5 16-year-old drivers get into car accidents due to weed" If they are implying that the 16 year-olds were high during the time of the crash, then it's not really true. There's no way to determine if someone is high at a certain point in time. Drug tests are ineffective because weed stays in your system for up to 2-3 months, so they wouldn't know how long ago you smoked.

 

I figured that much. But who are they targeting? Most people are aware of cannibis' medicinal purposes and a number of great uses. Wait... thats it. They want to keep it illigal because of how cheap things would cost us if cannibis was legal! Fuel, paper, rope, textiles, oil, and a whole bunch of stuff! Otherwise I'm just a philistine (man, that word is gay)on this subject.

 

Republican delegates are in very close ties with the tobacco industry, believe that.

 

The people of the US are simply brainwashed by the lies put out by our government. These are the people that believe everything that's on the news, and they are the ones that believe every pamphlet that they government puts out about weed. Most of their shit has been proven false.

And you made a good point, you can not determine if a person was under the influence of weed because it stays in your system. I think you meant weeks though, kiddo, not months. So automatically all of those "facts and figures" are not credible.

 

The only news I watch is BBC-America. The stuff they report on the US has more factual-based content than that Republican stronghold FoxNews. MSNBC is pretty bad too.

It also stays in your hair for quite a while, if I'm not wrong.

 

I dont know im high

 

why would the media be against herb? only because they're brainless moronic assholes? oh and because they're the media. that's what they do.

 

they bash everything illegel and legal-cigs and alcholol

even bash fatty foods

if i had a ton of power and didnt want something legel why not bash it like goverment is doing?

 

BraveSirRubin:You're more well educated than most people could gain in 10 lives? I see. So you built a time machine, did you? You took Jim Bob through 10 lives, and you saw his intellect and experience was still not that of your own? Wow, that's impressive. Making claims like that is just a joke. You're what 16, 17 years old? Wait until you actually meet some adults, not children or teenagers. They will have intellect, wit and experience long beyond yours, and if you're smart, instead of bragging about what little intellect you've gained you'll keep your mouth shut and actually listen.

-Many people smoke weed, few abuse it, and those who do are idiots? You already stated in another thread you consider 'abuse' doing the drug "27 1/2" times a day. Well, I don't do it that often, but I spliff atleast once a day, do you consider that 'abuse'? If so, I'd like to inform you that I graduated valedictorian of my class in 2002, and was awarded a scholarship in classical guitar/music performance. I smoked Marijuana atleast once every 2 days back then. I'm in no way an idiot. How many 'abusers' do you really know? I'm going to assume no more than 5 at the very most, which means you have no real experience with 'abusers', which means what? It means you're assuming. When you assume, what do you do, Rubin? You make an ass out of you and ... you.

You have every reason to be arrogant? And what are those reasons, exactly? Besides that fact that you're a less than adequately educated individual who is less than adequate at grammar and syntax, as well as articulating a point. If you enjoy debate, I'd say that a class in debate might be a good start. You may fair well on stoner boards, hell, half these guys are blazed when you post. An actual, formal debate, with individuals who are extensively versed on their subject might help put you in your place and help you realize that you don't really enjoy debate nearly as much as you'd thought you did. -...and fools think they're wise.


Look, the fact is, in order for the Government to legalize Marijuana 2 things have to happen. 1:They have to actually admit that they were wrong, and were putting out false information for 63 years in order to protect their own private interests and 2:those private interests have to suddenly no longer be interested in turning a profit. Make no mistake, the United States government is the hands of big business, and the oil companies, the paper and textiles industries, the synthetics industries and the tobacco industries have no interest in seeing Marijuana legalized, and therefore, it will not be legalized.

It took Harry J. Anslinger, Lamont Dupont and William R. Hearst 2 years of lobbying and 90 seconds in congress to illegalize Marijuana in the first place. If anything gets done in this country it's because a bureaucrat lobbied for it, or because men on the hill got together with their friends in big business and decided that it "must be so", and "it was". A cynical man, am I? No, merely a realist living in country under which he has no control.

The ads are annoying, and misleading, and often use semantics games, but you have to look at the channels on which they place these ads. These channels are generally MTV, Comedy Central, Nickelodeon. They're simply targeting a youthful demographic to keep them off of Marijuana. I think it's admirable what they're doing, but I think the means by which they're doing it are disgusting. They are certain that people your age aren't going to be stupid enough to take what they say at face value. Ironically, like Rubin said, they found the means by which they distributed the information (fear tactics) actually caused Marijuana use in teens in the early '90s. Teens said they tried it because it looked fun. haha! How about that?

I don't believe that Marijuana should be illegal. I think it should be legalized, taxed and the government should take the earnings and put them into the education system, military arms, and health-care plans for all Americans. But, the Government is so busy covering their bases in corperate funding that they would never actually take a step in the correct direction. 527s aren't the only campaign finance groups. The president really likes the sound of the Pharmaceutical industry's money in his hands. Marijuana could be legalized easily, without any real repercussions, atleast monetary, distributional or proprietary repercussions. The government could grow several different strains, and sell them at cafes, or even simply at gas stations. The only problem is, RJ Reynolds and Philip Morris know that the money wouldn't be going to them, and if companies as big as RJ Reynolds and Philip Morris don't agree with something in Congress, its safe to assume that bill won't pass.

Full proprietorship of Marijuana sales should be in the hands of the Government, plainly and simply. Full proprietorship of Marijuana growth and sales would give the Government the upperhand, which means that the price would dramatically drop (rather than go up). This would put black market dealers out of business, which in turn would keep your children from being able to buy Marijuana on the streets, and would keep responsible Marijuana users from having to deal with inscrupulous people. Kids would now have to buy Marijuana through an of-age source, as they do with alchohol. It's about the same difficulty, actually, buying Marijuana and Alcohol. So, Alcohol may be a fair amount easier to purchase, but your child buying Marijuana through an adult source, who inturn purchases the Marijuana for the child at the local station is A:safer for the child who is going to decide to experiment with Marijuana invariably, and B:a small price to pay for putting Marijuana at the level it belongs. The amount of people who are shown to use this illicit drug already makes it fair to assume that taxation wouldn't need to be very high, although, if you look at the rate cigarettes are taxed now-a-days, it's safe to assume that they would bump the tax up arbitarily on a supply-and-demand basis. This would mean large tax revenue for our country, and as I mentioned before, this money could work on so many levels - Education, police armament, higher teacher salaries, better (more) after-school programs, military armament etc.. If that's not enough, approximately 135,000 jail cells would be freed up, and the $2Billion spent to house those non-violent criminals can now go to housing violent criminals. It's time the Government starts working for the people rather than big business, and it's long past time for the Government to take steps in the correct direction.

 

I'm busy with me guitar, so I will not make this long.

1) I have already said that the 10 was a purposeful exageration. I have met many adults, and they have well aknowledged me.

2) I assume out of experience in my own life, with many more individuals than 5, and I also take the people on this forum in consideration. Yes, you do not fit the whole, yet you also do not abuse it.

3) Look at my other posts to see debates. I strongly recommend the Israel debate thread... lots for you to learn there. I will not force myself to follow direct grammar rules on an online forum.

4) Yes, you are right, that will have to happen for the CURRENT government to legalize marijuana. When capitalistic interest is not first on the government's list of concerns, then you will have your drugs legalized.

5) On the rest, I rather agree.

 

Purposeful exaggeration for what? The effect, correct? Enough said.

So, you posted in both US Should Invade Israel and in the "Racists" thread. I also posted in the "racists" thread, but what exactly was it that you said that was supposed to be impressive? I think you have over-estimated yourself by a few thousand times, kid. Anyone who didn't know that the Ottoman empire controlled (loosely) that area, and then subsequently after World War I, the area was passed to Britain is someone who didn't finish 8th grade history, I mean c'mon. If you're going to act like a genius with the information that will save world, you might want to actually display something intelligent. I'm not trying to be an asshole, but when you see someone bragging and going on and on about how well educated they are, you expect more than what you've given me.

 

10 lifetimes eeh

thats a long time

i guess learing a few languages and reading a couple books and taking up a couple hobbies makes life experiences useless

and whos lifetimes have you compared it to? einstein? bush? mentally challenged kids?people who die before they get to age 5?

not trying to bash just seems like a weird statement

 

Errr....what? Have you ever done it?