Why I Love Shoplifting (video)

Discussion in 'Globalization' started by chaos, Mar 8, 2005.

  1. Kilgore Trout

    Kilgore Trout Senior Member

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    stealing isn't dishonest. it's human nature.
     
  2. green_revolution

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    What exactly is the right way? And is there only one?
     
  3. Cosmic Butterfly

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    I do not steal, and I do not shop at WalMart. But I wanted to remind everyone of the story of Robin Hood that we all grew up with.
    Also alot of things from Walmart that we buy cost Walmart like .12 (or less) and then we pay ALOT more.

    Peace
     
  4. PhotoGra1

    PhotoGra1 Hip Forums Supporter HipForums Supporter

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    What is "human nature"?

    I don't think it could be defined as stealing.
     
  5. PIXIEFIED

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    totally :)
     
  6. heron

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    I didnt say do it the one right way.

    There are alot of right ways, and just as many wrong ones.

    And if stealing werent dishonest, then you wouldnt have to hide it.

    Besides, steal all you want, dont try to make yourself a hero by doing it.
     
  7. half a hippie

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    Afghanistan
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  8. spasticsofa

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    Very well said. Anyone who not only steals, but attempts to justify theft, is completely worthless.

    If you can't afford to purchase it, it's nobody's fault but your own!
     
  9. spasticsofa

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    half the people on this forum are borderline socialist. it's pathetic.
     
  10. spasticsofa

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    Don't ever tell me that the American Dream isn't alive and well. My family moved to America with little and we all live very comfortably now. I'm getting through school and I'll do well economically in the future.

    My gf's family came from Russia with no more that the clothes on their backs. Her mother fought through the exams with her small knowledge of English and is now a doctor. Her father is now a very respected chemist. Her brother is an Electrical Engineer. She's a med student.

    My friend/mentor grew up in shitty HUD housing with his tweaker mother who occasionally turned tricks. He hated the lifestyle, so he dedicated himself to getting out. He got grants, scholarships, and student loans and put himself all the way through a Masters degree. Now he's an assistant professor with an excellent lifetime career ahead of him.

    Hard work gets you everywhere in this country.

    Poor people are NOT "driven into crippling debt." They remain poor because of miserable money management and the frequency that they produce children.

    I worked as a pizza driver last year and I learned a lot about poor people and their spending habits. The people that ordered food 4+ times a week were the ones that had big screen TVs and satellites. They also lived in crappy rentals or trailers. No surprise when they're spending ~$400 per month in junk food just from my restaurant alone. Who knows how much they spent elsewhere.

    Middle and upper class household NEVER made such expensive orders so frequently. They aren't poor because they don't spend money they don't have.

    Having lived it, I cannot find sympathy for people that remain poor in America except in very extenuating circumstances. It sucks to be disadvantaged because of your background and family, but it's pathetic if you don't do anything about it.
     
  11. cutelildeadbear

    cutelildeadbear Hip Forums Gym Rat

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    LOL they don't spend money they don't have! hahahah I bet the credit card industry would get a kick out of that one.

    And most of this post was a ridiculous sterotype that has very little basis except for your ignorance.

    I do agree though that if one works hard things can and much of the time do work out. However what one person views as sucess is completely different from another, so that is all pretty relative.

    And I really just don't see how one can justify stealing. I have lived in my car (and btw no I don't have any kids nor do I own a tv or a satilite or do I eat junk food I'm a fucking personal trainer for god's sake, nor do I have any problem managing the little money I make while the owner of my company purchases his 10th new vehicle to drive to his 3rd house) Still. I wouldn't and haven't stolen no matter how down and out I have been. Plus, most of the time if you are really in need and just suck up your pride and ask for help, people are pretty willing to give it. Walmart or not, stealing in my opinion is wrong and not necessary.
     
  12. liguana

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    The system in some retails (don't know Walmart's system) is set up to catch repeat offenders... on the next time they offend. Large department stores have separate security so employees are freed from the task of having to harass customers. Security personel look for shoplifters and will let them get away with it the first time but are ready to catch them in action on subsequent offences.
     
  13. liguana

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    That's BS, ppl starve in this country, you just don't hear about it cos it's not something starving ppl want to bring up all the time, and they would have to bring it up constantly for ppl to know about it.

    I volunteered at a food bank when I was unemployed on welfare, new to the big city with high rents (I was left with $60 a month after rent for my room was paid) and during the longest recession Canada (and the US) has ever seen since WW2 and I can tell you I was starving and I knew other ppl in my predicament who were starving too. There are very slim pickings at food banks during long recessions, I volunteered at a food bank for the sole purpuse of acquiring more or better food. This is your monthly allotment at a food bank when the economy has been doing poorly for a long time:

    a tub of peanut butter
    a package of stale crumbled cookies
    A loaf of stale bread
    a small bag of powdered skim milk
    a can of tuna
    2 small cans of soup

    and if you're lucky enough to volunteer at a food bank then you also get first pickings to a jar of spaghetti sauce and maybe even a can of meaty stew. If you're type 1 diabetes, having to rely on the food bank is a death sentence.

    I'm a slender girl, well fed I'm 125 lbs, at 5'6", and during this time when I was most impoverished I was 112 lbs, I was even accussed of having an eating disorder.
    Days or weeks would go by before I had a square meal with meat. I was in the supermarket this one time salivating in the meat sections, this one package of meat was just looking at me for too long and I was just soooo hungry I wasn't in my right mind I walked out of the store with it. Brought it home, cooked it up and I was eating it right out of the pan while it was still cooking, it never made it to the table, I had already wolfed it down by then, that's how hungry I was.

    The moral of the story is if you're gonna donate to the foodbank, don't donate peanut butter or stale and starchy foods but donate something with meat and substance.
     
  14. hippiewise

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    liquana,
    i totally understand your story. i have been there and done that. i went three days one time without food and became like an animal, i would have stolen anything i could get my hands on to eat. i have had to eat out of shelters here in america and i have been a counselor at homeless shelters. what they feed the homeless is a sin. they take the money donated and use it for themselves, the homeless get garbage. the executive directors usually get 6 figure incomes, it's all so wrong. i hope your circumstances are better now.
    peace and joy
    hippiewise
     
  15. liguana

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    thank-you hippiewise, was afraid of being judged. Just had to share this story cos ppl don't think that ppl involuntarily go hungry in western countries.

    yes my circumstances are much better now. I know what you mean about those who 'work' for the poor. When I volunteered at the food bank me and my buddie only took a couple of items but there was this couple that would hog bags of food for themselves. Heard some stories from shelter clients too that would make you shake your head.

    I don't trust charities myself tho I'm a WWF member. It's just too tempting to take some money, I know, I did some fundraising myself and ended up keeping $60 :& I don't fundraise anymore.

    Hope your circumstances are better now too:)
     
  16. BlackSheep77

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    HAHA!
     
  17. El Hefe

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    They just claim the loss to the IRS and pass the other costs to the consumer. Wallmart is unstoppable and cannot be killed. Its like the HIV virus.
     
  18. barefoot_boy

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    I got caught shop lifting last year.It was embarrasing.The security
    cards were so intimidating.It's not like they'd see me there all the time anyway.
    Im in a different mind set now.It wasn't like I had a long shop lifting
    carreer anyway.I'd just been doing it in the big department stores.
     
  19. boothy

    boothy Senior Member

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    Australia? Australia was built on UK convicts actually ;)
     
  20. 2cesarewild

    2cesarewild I'm an idiot.

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    That's bullshit friend, you might also want to add all the irishmen who were so poor and had nowhere to live ("vagrants") that her majesty took it upon herself to ship them off to australia. ;-)
     

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