Why is mescaline so scarce?

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  1. 2cesarewild

    2cesarewild I'm an idiot.

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    Yea sounds like mescaline, you're lucky man. I've never come across the real deal, besides yote.
     
  2. polymer

    polymer Senior Member

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    yup, that was the product of an acid-base extraction of a mescaline containing cactus.
     
  3. Tarantism

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    you can make mescaline, i found a recipe once, but it requires sodium nitrate and benzene. difficult to find and not wortht he trouble.
     
  4. 2cesarewild

    2cesarewild I'm an idiot.

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    lol, yea doo benzene. awesome.
     
  5. Tarantism

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    hey now perhaps it was benzine
    now i gotta find the recipe lol
     
  6. Tarantism

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    thanks, you prompted me to find a better one!

    Several methods are available to isolate and identify mescaline within plant or animal tissue. Extraction is accomplished by methanol; this initial stage is then completed by filtration of the extract and its evaporation to dryness. The extract is then treated with chloroform and 0.05 N hydrochloric acid in a sep- aratory funnel; the aqueous portion is retained after several washings with chloroform. Ammonia or sodium carbonate is added to the aqueous solution in sufficient quantities to produce a slightly basic solution with a pH of about 8. This is followed by further extraction with chloroform and chloroform-ethanol (3:1). After adjusting the pH to about 10 a final chloroform-ethanol extraction is made. The chloroform extract which contains the alkaloids is then dried. The alkaloids can be separated into phenolic and non-phenolic groups by passing the extract (redissolved in chloroform) through Amberlite IRA-400 (OH-) ion-exchange resin. If thin layer chromatography is used for alkaloid separation and identification, several spray reagents are particularly useful. For example, Flourescamine (4-phenyl- spiro [furan-2 (3H), 1'-phthalan]-3,3-dione) readily distinguishes phenethylamines from tetrahydroisoquinolones. Mescaline may then be identified by comparison with known samples using infra-red spectrophotometry.

    "Applied chemists" within the drug cult have devised ingenious methods of extracting pure mescaline from dried or fresh plant material. The basic process varies somewhat but a typical one is as follows: the plant material is first boiled to extract the alkaloids; this extract is then made basic by the addition of sodium hydroxide (lye). Next benzene (try methylenechloride) is added to further separate the alkaloids. The aqueous and benzene portions are allowed to separate following a gentle shaking. Dilute sulfuric acid (hydrochloric works as well) is next added in small quantitites to the benzene portion and the solution is again shaken. The mixture is allowed to stand, and the process is repeated several more times with the addition of a more dilute acid every time. A white precipitate will soon settle and can easily be dried. This is mescaline sulfate (or hydrochloride) and further steps can make it quite pure."
     
  7. AreYouExperienced

    AreYouExperienced American Victim

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    I got ahold of some at Bonarroo in 2003 and 2005, but the stuff I got at 2004 was 2-CB, I'm almost positive. But I know the other two were legit for sure, as my friend and I extracted some from his Peruvian torch plant about 6 years ago.
     
  8. 2cesarewild

    2cesarewild I'm an idiot.

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    "make" usually means synthesize, not 'extract.' Biochemical reactions have already 'made' the mescaline for you, you're talking about extracting it from plant material.
     
  9. Tarantism

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    well, when you chop up the cactus, then grind up the xylem (i used a blender), and then you cook it for 4-6 hours, 6 for me, and then when you are done you seperate the liquids fromthe pulp using a cloth and a pot. after that, ylou have some san pedro juice. at this point i wanted to know if i could get a solid from this liquid, so i tried soduim chloride, NaCl, which didnt work. looks like ethanol is my next test once i can get some more cactus.
     
  10. jrod

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    Why dont you just read other topics. The one titled "what cacti contain mescline?" might lead you in the right direction


    I had a jar of corn whiskey(moonshine) with san pedro pulp once, my mom found it and threw it out :(
    At least I dont live at with my folks now and wont have that problem again.
     
  11. Tarantism

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    i know what cacti contain mescaline. i have 5 ft of san pedro sitting in my room right now. im tryign to get he pure chemical. have you been reading?
     
  12. jrod

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    You only know about about 3 cacti that contain mescaline. You obviously didnt look at that topic. I tried to help you out.............
     
  13. Soberbeah

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    It's come through Long Island a few times, my friends had some for a couple of weeks
    they loved the shit, but I never got a chance to do it
    it usually comes and goes really fast
     
  14. benr

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    mesc-is not scarce,i know brothers in oregon and arizona that can get at will!



     
  15. desert nightmare

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    Does anyone happen to know the percentage of mescaline that gets past the blood brain barrier?

    I've heard that only about 1% of LSD makes it through. I would think that the same amount, not percent, of mescaline would make it through in order to have the same effects. That seems to make the most sense.
     
  16. THCsetmefree

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    ive tried it, mescaline extract..atleast thats wut iw as told it ws, a kind apinkinsh orangeish powder, my friend dipped a key in the bag and i snorted wut was on the end of the key....tripped for like 10 hours, not liek LSD or phsyliobin...it was like nothing ive ever done before that or since then....but a couple years later iw as doing random drug research, and now im kinda thinking it kight have been AMT aka " foxy"
     
  17. 2cesarewild

    2cesarewild I'm an idiot.

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    A key of mescaline wouldn't be enough for a threshold dose most likely. Unless it was a really, really big key lol.
     
  18. THCsetmefree

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    well it was supposedly an extract...thats why i think it was AMT or somthign else....ive eaten peyote too....that was prett intense...thats the one thing i like about az the indidan resevations, and i live in the southern part of arizona, it takes me 4 hours to get to rocky point mexico, but i only live about 400 miles form LA at the same time....
     
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    You make some good points in how people can be duped into buying cactus laced with LSD. What are RC's?
     
  20. 2cesarewild

    2cesarewild I'm an idiot.

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    Research Chemicals.
     
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