will i die?

Discussion in 'LSD - Acid Trips' started by gdp, Oct 23, 2011.

  1. smokeyroom

    smokeyroom Member

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    "if you could
    flick a switch and open your third eye, you'd see that
    We should never be afraid to die,so come on"muse song.uprising
     
  2. creedlespeek

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    No, what those of us who are familiar with a-fib, v-fib, v-tach, etc., are saying is:

    1. We can't tell you without reading your chart.

    2. Ask your PCP or cardiologist.
     
  3. SapphireNeptune

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    Your doctor would probably recommend you not to do acid due to the inherent risk every unregulated drug carries. It's like smoking, your doctor isn't going to flip out on you for smoking, or underage kids if they're drinking, except remind you it's not something that's beneficial to your health. I think he's aware of the fact that the patient is aware of what they're doing is illegal. If you do drugs and don't tell your doctor, it's a pretty foolish move, unless you're trying to get drugs out of said doctor. Doctors exist to give medical advice and help their patients, a doctor really can't make an accurate diagnosis if a patient is withholding information.
     
  4. gdp

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    oh cool, well yeah i know weed can make my heart race..but thats fine. I just remember that its not the weed doing it, its just me freaking out about it and me putting it on my self then i calm myself down. But i dont wna drop it then an hour later feel my heart flying around and thinking im gna go into cardiac arrest.

    i tried nitrous oxide out of a balloon for the first time yesterday and my heart raced but it was fine afterwards :) is that a good sign?
     
  5. pbjube3

    pbjube3 Cock Blaster

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    i would be that NOS would immediitaly shoot your heart rate up, but would returnt to baseline quickly because of the short effect of the drug, acid on the other hand is a 6 hour plus commitment. Obviously none of us are doctors and shouldnt be giving you any health advice, but if your already testing yourself with these other drugs then what do you have to loose? the worst thing that happens is you die, but what better way to die than to be trippin your balls off right?
     
  6. Mr.Writer

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    Actually the weed is doing it.



    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/664296.stm
     
  7. upperlevel

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    To answer the thread question:
    Yes, you will die... eventually.
     
  8. SuperPsychMe

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    I wouldn't believe information on drugs that come from any government site
     
  9. gdp

    gdp Guest

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    Yeah thats coming from the US government and heart disease is so common there everything is heart attack risk. No offence to anyone (Im american and english, living in england). I over did weed once and greened out, got super scared becasue of my heart and went to go talk to a doctor, he said that hardly affects the heart, just the brain and what the affect on the heart has wont even be noticed. I guarnteed i would NOT die from cannabis, however when I drink I can notice a difference in my heart. Marijuana has never killed anyone, ever, but Acid has..which is why im more...scared?
     
  10. Black_Lotus

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    Is everyone serious? Because I have easily felt most to all of those side effects. Dry mouth - not as bad as weed at all, but still noticeable Sleeplessness - when you're thinking in thousands of tangents a second, closing your eyes just gives you visuals into your soul, you can't fall asleep!
    Tremors - I've for some reason only have had this on my lower dose trips, you'd think using the dose would increase them, but everyone once in awhile, my mind has this "glitch in the matrix" and my leg or arm will spaz for a second, but it's never ongoing or painful in any way

    Sweatiness - no, haven't exp this
    Raised body temperature - I never feel too hot, but even when I know it's cold outside, I last longer, so I'm certainly hotter...
    Raised heart rate - perhaps its from anxiety or the thrill of the experience, but my heart rate raises, never to anything scary, but it's not just chilling there like it would be while sleeping. I've heard people say on weed that they feel Elise there heart is pounding on them, I've never had that, but it sounds like weed could be more dangerous than acid.


    Has no one had any of these side effects? Because I find that hard to believe... And I know for sure im getting clean acid, not laced with anything
     
  11. hawaiiankine

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    IDK.. but in the 70s we used terms like "that acid was speedy" meaning it felt like speed but no way it was speed on a tiny tab.
     
  12. Mr.Writer

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    Your doctor is an idiot, cannabis has a direct influence on the heart, this has been known for decades. Nobody has ever died from a normal dose of LSD, whereas cannabis is easily linked to cardiac arrest and heart disease just like smoking cigarettes. Where did you hear that someone died from LSD?
     
  13. SuperPsychMe

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    I didn't say it was wrong, I just wouldn't trust info about drugs from a government site. It seems like they have their own agenda for some reason
     
  14. Black_Lotus

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    ^^ no denying the government is full of bullshit...They've made up shit about drugs for hundreds of years to have control over their people
     
  15. hawaiiankine

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    they prolly made up lsd too so we'll all want something that doesn't exist.
     
  16. burnabowl

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    According to this MMJ site, cannabis increases heart rate in users with lower tolerance. However it also relaxes smooth-muscles which can reduce blood pressure and results in increased bloodflow to tissues (the reason for MJ's neuroprotective qualities and the notorious bloodshot eyes).

    It mentions a few cases in which cannabis was implicated in cardiovascular events, but stresses the likely role of alcohol and other drugs in the mix.

    http://www.idmu.co.uk/canncardio.htm

    I'm not terribly impressed by the pot-linked-to-heart-attack study from the Boston Medical Center. The study dealt strictly with heart attack sufferers, 3882 of them. 124 of them were identified as cannabis users, of them 37 smoked within a day of the heart attack, nine smoked within an hour before the attack.

    The 37 who smoked within a day of the heart attack do not specifically relate to the danger claim, since the claim deals with risk in the hour or so after ingesting cannabis. So that leaves 9 out of 124 cannabis-using heart attack sufferers who smoked within an hour of the heart attack. The available study is pretty light on details, such as frequency of use. Based on the information they give, I find it equally likely the timing of the heart attacks was coincidence. OF course it is very possible that someone with a heart condition could have it precipitated by ingesting cannabis, same as exercise, stress, sex can precipitate an attack.

    I just don't know how they take that information and say that you have a 5-fold increase in chance of heart attack (esp. since they say they don't know how pot helps a heart attack happen). It reminds me of the cannabis study that claims pot puts you at greater risk for schizophrenia based on 68 out of 3800 pot-users having schizo (that percentage is the same as the general population :p)

    But back to the OP: I personally find that pot elevates my heart rate more than acid. With acid I only notice it in the moments before I fully peak (about 40-50 extra beats a minute), and it's never really bothered me. The main issue I'd be thinking about is stress-induced pulse increase which can arbitrarily create faster heartbeats throughout the trip. As long as your regular doc says you can exercise without worry, I'd only be thinking about mental causation. A psychiatric MD might be more helpful to talk to, psychedelic drugs are more in their field.
     
  17. 5dimdeep

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    I would not recommend it personally due to me having heart issues too...and an ego death can really eff u up (It's pretty much the only worry I have now.) You might not die but then again..who knows? It really is up to you at the end of the day.

    Good luck in whatever you choose. Just be safe and always ride the wave.

    :hippy:

    -Peace-
     

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