Will Obama legalize the stinky green?

I got fibromyalgia.. not on the list as of yet

I know the green works.. I have conducted test.. lab rat that I am

If I smoke a nugget the size of one ibuprofen .. I'm pain free for at least 12-16 hours

otherwise I'm taking 4 pills in that time period.. the drug companies have enough money

they put shit on the market and cherry pick their control groups... it's total bull shit

 

Maybe I could be a Medical Cannabis Program Coordinator

What a job. Talk about yer inside connections?

 

Well, a nugget a day keeps the pain away! Probalby cheaper than drugs (pill form)

If your ailment ever did qualify, the 'Licensure of Qualified Patients to Produce Cannabis Plants for Personal Use Only' may be the route to go. It only cost $15.

I might just have to suddenly develop one of these ailments!

No info on what costs are to patients - If you're a grower, does the state purchase it from you, or does the patient?

 

I have no idea.. maybe someone here can give some input as to how other states work it

I wish I knew

 

too much ignorant hippie bullshit in this thread.....


the last 8 years aside, the man or woman holding the office of the president of the united states of america is NOT a legislator, and has no power to rewrite laws as they see fit. in theory, if not in practice in recent years, the only power they have in terms of the lawmaking process is the veto, and the congress can override a veto if enough of them approve it (iirc, its a 2/3 vote, but i'm not positive)

marijuana is a schedule I substance and, as you said, illegal to grow according to the federal government - for ANY reason, unless the proper clearances have been given (which is virtually impossible). this INCLUDES growing for medical, industrial, recreational, or religious use.

state laws affect only the state, and federal laws are the law of the land and precedents exist all over the place reinforcing the idea that federal laws trump all. for medical marijuana to be legal according to california law means ONLY that the state government will not bust licensed growers, distributors and patients - not that it is legal. medical marijuana IS ILLEGAL in california, just like every other state, because it is illegal in the entire usa. just because california's police force doesnt mess with it doesnt mean the DEA isn't still busting growers, clubs, and caregivers.

state law NEVER overrides federal law, it is exactly the opposite. state and municipal laws favoring marijuana decriminalization or legalization are purely protests, a defiance of the federal law. it is smaller segments of government saying, "no, it really isnt a big deal and we won't waste our resources on it." it doesn't actually legalize anything.


-obama won't legalize marijuana, because even if he wanted to he does not wield that authority
-local government can only go so far. even if a state were to flat out legalize cannabis within their state, it would still be subject to federal (and in fact, international) laws outlawing cannabis, and people in said region would still be subject to arrest and prosecution for cannabis related crimes

 

if you want to encourage legalization or decriminalization on a national level, i suggest writing your representatives in both houses of congress. write concisely, clearly, and persuasively...i'd advise steering away from "man, pot should be legal! stop oppressing us!" as it will get even less attention than well written letters.

more effective would be trying to change the minds of people around you - this, again, will require behaving like a respectable human being, and not being overbearing or simply repeating stupid tshirt/bumper sticker/poster slogans.

still most effective would be becoming involved with local chapters of lobbyist organisations such as NORML. giving of resources such as funds, time, and energy will be more effective in a political organization rather than trying to change the minds of your representatives or neighbors.

legalization, reclassification, or decriminalization ideally needs to be a four-point phenomenon, though. we need to

a) further the idea in the public that marijuana is not as harmful as tobacco or alcohol, a traditionally important and valuable product with many uses whose risks are vastly outweighed by its benefits to society

b) reinforce the limited political organizations already in place to make cannabis rights a currently vital political issue, such as NORML

c) reinforce the limited organizations already in place calling to reclassify cannabis to make it more readily available for scientific and medical research, such as MAPS

d) convince the legislature that it isn't just a bunch of ignorant deadbeats and a few small wacko organizations that want pot legalized. they have to know that much of the american population not only thinks it should be legal, but demand that it be legal.

so if anyone is serious about trying to change things, this is what you should do: try and politely argue for the issue with people around you, hopefully genuinely changing peoples minds. write letters to your representatives in congress, and support organizations such as MAPS and NORML. if you can't become directly involved, financial donations are always helpful.

the idea of political suicide was brought up, and its something that cannot be overlooked. the way around this is strength in numbers. if the openly pro-cannabis-rights or pro-cannabis-research organizations are larger in number, and if the polls show that a significantly large number of americans favor legalization, reclassification, or decriminalization, then the congressmen and women will be far more likely to consider actually listening. i'd say don't hold your breath, because my guess is polls would have to show about 60% of americans in favor of this before it will be widely considered a politically viable stance.

what the new administration potentially COULD do, however, is to direct the DEA to minimize the priority of cannabis, and direct them to work on busting big time drug dealers, rather than state-sanctioned growing and distribution organizations for patients. this would neither be legalization, reclassification, or decriminalization - merely a changing of priorities. but it would be a significant step towards official tolerance of marijuana, and would allow legitimate users in california, oregon, and other MMJ-friendly states to sleep a little easier, and would (hopefully) pave the way for the american people to finally saying in unison that the drug war, as it's been fought the past few decades, is NOT acceptable.

 

Nesta,

I think most people here are aware at what level this is held. I feel most would just like it, for a change.. if "A" president would speak up about it.

Some very good suggestions btw

 

From what I've read, if you've got a license to grow it from the state of nm, you're only growing the 95 plants you're allowed, you're not crossing state lines, or taking it to the airport with you, you're not dealing other illegal substances, etc it's likely the feds will leave you alone. Let's HOPE the Feds have bigger fish to fry!

 

Nesta, thanks for telling them what i wanted to.

He would, if he could. but he wont. its up to us.

 

No he won't, he might be able to decriminalize it if he gets a second term but he would need backup to get anything like that done.

 

no, he would be the one backing up those who did the actual work.

 

I guess, but what I mean is this: Say Obama wants to legalize, he cannot just say "Marijuana is legal". He would have to have Congress or the Senate(both?) to sign a bill and then approve it himself.

 

the congress is bicameral, including both the house of representatives and the senate. the senate is part of congress.

he has no power over the congress at all, and is not a part of the congress, except the power of veto he is totally removed.

someone within the congress must introduce a bill, then it gets voted on, then he either approves of it or gives it the veto. if he vetoes, the congress may override it.

the president has no actual power in terms of legislation, no final say if enough congressmen and women want something to pass, it will pass.

 

So where is our voice, who is speaking for us in congress. Damn, they ALL fucking smoke it, at least tried it. I know there are enough of us in the "United" States, that our voice should be loud enough to be heard around the world..

Why isnt it getting even on the board. Who's in charge of this shit anyway, does anyone know?!? do we have anybody at all speaking for us. Well NORML is I know, but what the hell?!? it's been forty fricken yrs. What are they doing to decriminalize it, and allow MMJ at least.

We have become a bunch of wimps, yes, candy asses, to worried about someone finding out they smoke it. Way to comfortable to get up and do anything about it. Myself included. Not that I'm lazy, just dont want to be beatup or tased or inprisoned again at my age. I did all that in my youth. I'm not ready to stand up alone, fearless and confrontal. I have too much to lose now.

I'd like to be able to smoke at least to ease my pain. I cant take poison pills anymore they burned holes in my stomach. So what are ppl like me suppose to do, suffer?? How long should this suffering contenue?? another 20 yrs. ( Rant Rant)

There is just no unity any more. So what should we do about it?

sh

 

Smoking marihuana is more fun than drinking beer,
But a friend of ours was captured and they gave him thirty years
Maybe we should raise our voices, ask somebody why
But demonstrations are a drag, besides we're much too high
And I'm sure it wouldn't interest anybody
Outside of a small circle of friends

Yea, Phil Ochs wrote that about 40 yrs ago.
Some things never change.

 

WWWWWwwwwwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!

 

Hey, we could write letters, well type them and print them, we are too sophisticated to actually manually write something. Do our fingers still bend thata way, I wonder.

Well anyway, we could all write letters to Obama and tell him we voted for him, now it's his turn to vote for us and give us our medicine!!

What do you say, should we give it a try??

 

no. he doesn't have the power to legalize it.

http://www.visi.com/juan/congress/cgi-bin/newseek.cgi?site=ctc&state=tx

those are the people texans need to be writing to, if you seriously want to write letters. especially your senators and the representative of your district.

ron paul is already on board, if you're in district 14.



write to obama all you want, but he can't change it even if he wanted to. and he isn't a direct representative of the people, either.

the congress has the power to change laws.

though the DEA is seperate from the congress, but able to ban drugs through "emergency action" which is how most of the recent prohibitions have come about (MDMA, 2C-B, AMT, etc.) so with the way things are set up, it may be slightly tricky getting it legalized, even if enough people were for it.

and again, the issue DOES come up frequently, and is even put to public vote, and is usually voted down by a healthy margin. more than half of americans have smoked pot. less than half of active voters think it should be legal.

 

i honestly think its better left decriminalized

 

Not me, decriminalization would still mean getting a dui for driving. I don't know about you but I have never seen anybody drive like they were drunk when they get high.