Will religion lead to the end of mankind?

Well my Love back as gratitude for the Forums Pessimistic views of Late.


There may be a Blessed Trinity for the Pains of the nearing End.

The progressive sustained Economy which we cannot let go of, because of the deficit to pay back, let alone the constant national Debt. That is God the Father, the creator of the "environmental threat" of a financially inept Development.

The Mustard Seed of transaction wealth, and of Growth of the Communications (really religiously nothing better) for the Material Means of Production or let settle that the Love and the competent applications to the business world of the Inconvenient Truth, "god the Father" was and might continue to be with Climate Change and the Bricklayng Profession. The Mustard Seed cannot be sustained in its very essence and merits in the Progress of science realizing new problems like nuclear waste disposal , just mentioning One for the Jesus Christ establishment at Globalization.

Finallly, the true Holy Spirit. why we scramble that, and just make the business frustrate itself. How much accountable wealth, really there is? The 'Marble Man' of Jan Wajda, the film of of empty bricklaying competition for survival of the fittest, one might have encouraged profit, it really are we doing any better with the profit motive? Now there is the credit crunch with people deceiving their timed account of wealth. Finally the future of progress is to materially compete for the values of Pigs as on the Animal Farm, and everybody germinated to sustain their proof that they can only show the selfish conditioning to labour with shining and unbearable grievance. People hated each other in the Past and now they are not to forget that.

The Mustard Seed ~= the sustained economy for market judgment of the
people reproducing their families.:mickey:

 

Which us?

 

Forgive debt to be rid of it.

New wine is meant for new skins. We cannot bring truth to illusion and make illusion real. We bring illusion to truth and truth dispels the illusion.

Leave the dead to bury the dead

The mustard seed is quantum entanglement and with frequency modulation, resonance is set up, starting as the smallest of seeds and growing to the largest of shrubs, so that the birds of the air make their nests in the shade of its' branches.

 

thedope

Everyone.

 

i dont think its to the extent of our demise, but it adds more hostility and in turn damage to ourselves.

i've said before that the monetary system is a religion, and that creates much much more damage than any other religion. will that religion be our demise? thats the question of the decade/century/millenium/existence.

 

Willedwill:

Before December?

The depths. We are, to become ourselves. We always did through everything. That's history, and the love of it. Right now, and we always will willedwill, won't we?! Even if we have to plunge into forgetfulness with the dead, our moment is inherent to all remembering!

O ye mods! Why delete threads and leave no explanation? Is our being here not puzzlement enough?!

 

Then again there may be no need to preserve and cultivate every abstraction we entertain.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGoDPasLTyo"]YouTube - Bill Maher's take on The Rapture on may 21 2011

 

True, and so still I ask why. Why actively intervene where we may simply leave off in the cultivation of an abstraction?

An example. A moderator locks a thread, for a reason. The reason, while perhaps not satisfying everyone, still stands as such.

An explanation for the deletion of a thread would be... a nice touch!

Go hip forums! The free speech forums!

 

To answer the original question: human stupidity in general is the greatest threat to mankind. Extreme religious belief is just one of its many forms. Lack of empathy and foresight come to mind as well.

 

deceiving ourselves as to how we cause suffering, thus confusing the issue of how we might be able to avoid doing so, certainly increases the risk of our inadvertent mutual and complete self destruction. by no means does it guarantee that we will.

that dominant belief systems encourage this does nearly negate their positive value of encouraging people to want to avoid causing harm and suffering.

 

Nicely put. One of the most intelligent things I've seen on a forum in a while.

As someone who believes in God, I've often seen people trying to blame God for wars, but wars would happen with or without God. Will religion play a very major role in WW3, yes of course, but if there was no religion there'd still be a nuclear war and close to total annihilation of mankind. I won't call it WW3, 'cause it might have a different number in that situation, maybe WW2 or maybe WW4 or whatever.

It is not God who'll bring nuclear war, it is man.

As someone trying to prevent nuclear war, I am constantly aware of people's lack of empathy and foresight. It is unfortunate, but it is basic human nature.

I believe that the money system is the strongest player though. It is what drives people to promote extreme hatred, for the specific purpose of starting a war, because war is extremely profitable.

Just about all wars are strongly influenced by money. Usually there are some making extreme profits off of it, but also there are the extremely poor fighting out of frustration for their sever poverty. The vast majority of those fighting, are fighting for money. The paid solders who joined, often in peace time, thinking it was a way to get an education or whatever. Others who joined due to the intense government propaganda, mostly lies, which is specifically designed to produce intense hatred.

Our system of society intentionally produces intense hatred. That is how they get solders for their war for profit routine.

The problem is, that intense hatred is like a fire which can easily burn out of control. Once it gets going, it can't be stopped, and it will eventually lead to nuclear war.

It doesn't matter if people hate people for the color of their skin, or their religion, or the country they live in, or whatever. None of that matters. It is hate which is the essence of war. Many things can trigger the hate, but in the end, it is pure uncontrolled hatred, and it will not stop until nuclear war.

So many people think that there'll never be a nuclear war, but that requires people to be logical. War is emotional, not logical. It is every bit as illogical to shoot someone out of hatred, but it happens all the time.

Tony

 

But when the End comes for the Individual, like by the jihad (something religious{ to understand?), then it is necessary to have everyone with you for the End, and that is the atheist view .... how to understand 'Religion?'??

 

what is mankind???

all is see, in thanks to religion, is manevil.

 

There is no mankind when there is War. But that is relative, and a truly religious Jihad shall lead to peace. What else; suicide is meaningfully unethical only to the Selfish. <for simplicity>

 

Religions lead to war in the past and will be in the future! God has got nothing to do with religion. Man should come away from all religion to know God.

Jack Daniel.

 

speak properly... and learn what jihad means :mickey:

 

Kind means type. So mankind is man-type, or man type animal.

Religion does not make people what they are, people make their own religious beliefs to match what the people already are.

Religion is not the cause of hate or war. War and hate would exist just as much if there was no religion. Take away religion, and there'd still be just as much hate, war, violence and all other bad things. People mostly do not become good or bad because of religion, they choose what they believe according to what they want to hear. If they are good, they choose good beliefs. If they are bad, they choose bad beliefs.

This is why the "Christian" Churches do not follow Jesus, rather they follow Paul. Paul was a bad man, a murderer. Paul worked for the government and went around arresting and killing apostles. Then suddenly he changed his tactics and become an apostle, and wrote many of the books of the Bible. The churches follow Paul, 'cause he says what they want to hear. Like for example, Paul says that all leaders (including Hitler) are ordained by God and it is a sin to oppose them. Jesus says the opposite of that, as well as many other things Paul says Jesus says the opposite.

I believe that God inspired Paul to spread the word, 'cause God knew that the people would immediately forget about Jesus. The people hated Jesus and had him killed, but God knew that they'd love Paul, 'cause he says what they want to hear. So to get the message to us, God inspired Paul as a sort of incentive based promotion.

If God didn't do that, Jesus would have been forgotten, and mankind would have made up other religions that are every bit as bad, perhaps even worse.

If there was no religion, it would be only morality that people go by, but... morality is just as easy to modify as religion. You can choose your own morality rules, by forming justifications for your actions. These justifications are very damaging to mental health, but very easy to create. So without religion, people would do just as much bad stuff as they do with religion.

Capitalism, however, changes the way people behave. It makes people greedy by reward training. Take a good person, and put them in the Capitalist system, and you'll have a bad person in time.

We are a product of our environment. Take a good person, and put him or her in politics, and in time you'll have a bad person. Take a good person and make him head of a large corporation, and in time you'll have a bad person.

Why do people say "buy American"? Help the USA economy, etc. Why? What about all the people who are forced to live on $50 a month or even less in some cases? Why do not people say buy from them instead? Why do people always want to make themselves richer at the cost of the poor? It is always at the cost of the poor, don't kid yourself. As you get richer, someone else is getting poorer.

The only way to be a good person in Capitalism, is to give your money to the poor, and then you become a poor person yourself. Almost nobody does that. So we all become bad people in Capitalism. We all become greedy and selfish, and greed and selfishness lead to hate, and hate leads to war.

The only way to have World Peace, is to have a form of society which does not make people into bad people. That's not easy, but it can be done.

Tony
http://conceivia.com

 

Actually in this world, for every person getting richer there's at least 20 people getting poorer. High quality of life is not globally sustainable for the entire population, or so it would seem.

Mankind; we are blood thirsty greedy selfish warmongering genocidal predators with or without religion BUT religion IS a tool created by man to help facilitate our blood thirsty greedy selfish warmongering genocidal predatory behaviors. That's denial, that's power. Have your cake and eat it too, repent and ascend into the heavens, no blood stained hands, all bad thoughts repressed... denial... denial... denial....

 

There have always been wars. There has always been that struggle for riches and power over fellow humans. All of humankind has been in conflict from pre-history to the present for just such reasons. It's happening on a more grand scale now because of the advancement in the methods of slaughtering one another. Why would this condition change other than become modernized?? Only the actors change, but the goals are the same--that is --subjugation of one people by another for what perhaps used to be small plots of land and animals or captured enemies to be used as slaves for labor,sex or even in some societies-food. Now,with the advances in science worldwide and the concommitant discoveries and uses for resources ,the ones in power have now pretty well sorted themselves out and they are evident to any and all who care to look. It doesn't matter what the masses of we humans think at this point in time--the play is mapped out and is proceeding apace. Religion will cause some strife ,as it always has and various forms of it will in some cases,be used to justify the very actions humans have always taken against each other. We serve at the behest of the "ones who rule" presently and it can only proceed to get worse until the worst of all happens.

There have always been voices in the wilderness,as it were, that spoke and still speak of love,empathy,common sense and attempt to make those for whom destruction is a way of life to attain their goals --to SEE. Unfortunately ,the aformentioned qualities in no way alters their methods of subjugation by war,murder and subterfuge. So it goes. Now go back to sleep and don't forget to----buy more--buy more now.